NBA Thread

[SHARKDIESEL]

Will Durant win the scoring title?

[Mojo]

yes............

[Mercury]

will the Lakers win the NBA title...yep! :D

[The Dre Era]

I see Rev Lance Watson got fired again

[Tully Blanchard]

Chi-Town backs into the NBA Playoffs again!

[The Dre Era]

Cleveland Bitches!!!!!!!!!!!
Im ready
gonna be burning up the highway going back and forth to Ohio
the next few months

[korleon]

I think the Bobcats should have tried to get the 8 spots since they OWN Cleveland... LOL

[king]

Cleveland Bitches!!!!!!!!!!!
Im ready
gonna be burning up the highway going back and forth to Ohio
the next few months

Let me get a ticket and a ride lol ill pay

[The Dre Era]

Let me get a ticket and a ride lol ill pay

Well see....

[ben_nice]

Cleveland Bitches!!!!!!!!!!!
Im ready
gonna be burning up the highway going back and forth to Ohio
the next few months

it certainly looks good for the cavs.... they are by far the most talented team in the nba

[ben_nice]

2009-2010 Awards

Coach of the Year
1. Scott Skiles
2. Scott Brooks
3. Nate McMillan

Most Improved Player
1. Aaron Brooks
2. Joakim Noah
3. Andrew Bogut
4. Corey Brewer
5. Josh Smith

Honorable Mentions: George Hill, David Lee, Russell Westbrook, Anderson Varejao, Andray Blatche, Kevin Durant, Channing Frye, Roy Hibbert, J.J. Redick

Sixth Man of the Year
1. Jamal Crawford
2. Anderson Varejao
3. Jason Terry
4. Lamar Odom
5. Udonis Haslem

Defensive Player of the Year
1. Dwight Howard
2. Josh Smith
3. Anderson Varejao
4. Andrew Bogut
5. Gerald Wallace

Rookie of the Year
1. Tyreke Evans
2. Stephen Curry
3. Brandon Jennings
4. Darrenn Collison
5. Marcus Thornton

Most Valuable Player
1. LeBron James
2. Kevin Durant
3. Dwight Howard
4. Kobe Bryant
5. Dirk Nowitzki
6. Steve Nash
7. Carmelo Anthony
8. Dwyane Wade
9. Deron Williams
10. Brandon Roy

All-NBA

First team

G - Steve Nash
G - Kobe Bryant
F - LeBron James
F - Kevin Durant
C - Dwight Howard

Second team

G - Dwyane Wade
G - Deron Williams
F - Carmelo Anthony
F - Dirk Nowitzki
C - Amare Stouedmire

[ben_nice]

no one has any playoff predictions?

East

Cavs-Bulls.... Cavs in 5, Rose and Noah find a way to steal a game.... tho if the Bulls have any chance of winning this series which seems impossible, game 1 is the game they need to steal, its gonna take time for the cavs to work shaq back in

Magic-Bobcats... Magic in 5.... The Bobcats stink on the road but i really dont trust this Magic team in close games, i dont know who will close out games for them, ive never trusted Vince in big moments.....

Hawks-Bucks.... Hawks in 5.... The Hawks should win this series quickly if they truly wanna take that next step

Celtics-Heat... Too be honest this is a serious coin flip, a battle of basically 2 .500 teams, Boston is 27-27 last 54 games, Heat have won 18 of last 22 games to make their record look a lot better then they are, 15 of those wins are Warriors, Clippers, Bulls(minus Rose, Deng and Noah), 76ers, Bobcats(worst road team in the playoffs), @nets, @bulls(without deng and noah on a pitch count), Raptors, @pistons, @pacers, @wolves, 76ers, @knicks, @76ers, nets... Wade is by far the best player in the series but who knows if his team mates show up... Boston has played awful at home and look like they hate playin with one another but they couldnt lose in the first round could they?

my mind says Heat in 6, my heart says Celts in 7.... flipped a coin Celts in 7 won

West

Lakers-Thunder.... Lakers in 6... tho im very nervous about this series, Westbrook has a huge advantage on the corpse of Derek Fisher, Bynum has worked out once in the last month and the Lakers need him to play well to take advantage of the Thunder down low and we saw how he played in the last years playoffs coming back from injury.... it looks like Kobe's body is breaking down like a car with far too many miles on it... Ron Artest plays well like 4 times a month... the lakers have no bench... Kevin Durant is a freak of nature, Jeff Green has the height and speed to matchup with Odom, Thabo is one of the best perimeter defenders, The Thunder are young and in the end i think that probally will cost them

Mavericks-Spurs.... this series will go 7 games and im taking the Mavs, home court + too much Dirk

Suns-Blazers... Suns should win this series pretty easy due to all the Blazers injurys but Blazers have won in phoenix without Roy this season, Portland is a hard place to win at, Portland makes this a series but im a say Phoenix in 7

Nuggets-Jazz.... Nuggets in 7, Nuggets went 3-1 against the Jazz this season and the loss came with Billups and Melo not playing, Boozer, Okur banged up, AK47 out and home court = Nuggets advancing

[Ju?]

The Heat could very well win this series still, but they go out quietly in the next round.

[Mercury]

I was just telling my boy today how I'm worried about Fisher's ability to check westbrook.

[ben_nice]

I was just telling my boy today how I'm worried about Fisher's ability to check westbrook.

as you should be... the corpse of derek fisher cant guard anyone.... the lakers need serious help at pg.....

[Ju?]

I'm not just being a homer, but am I the only one that found Q Rich getting fined $25,000 unjust? He was just defending himself. If anything, Haslem was more involved in it than him, and he was just breaking it up.

[Qwasian]

the lakers are not going to lose, lets be realistic

[Mercury]

that jazz/nuggets game was crazy!

[Cherry Almond Jergen's]

the lakers are not going to lose, lets be realistic

lol.....

lakers and cavs in finals

[The Dre Era]

Shoutout to all my Cleveland haters

[The Dre Era]

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a78/nursetpd/TSB/Lost_James_Johnson_Posters.gif

[Tully Blanchard]

Coldblooded...

I'm glad that Chi-town made the Playoffs, but clearly we're overmatched by the James Gang. We'll need damn near perfect games from Rose and Noah to even make it interesting the rest of the way.

[Mercury]

Shoutout to all my Cleveland haters

who hates cleveland on this board?

[The Dre Era]

who hates cleveland on this board?
anybody thats a laker fan kobe stan :D

[AGINO]

Coldblooded...

I'm glad that Chi-town made the Playoffs, but clearly we're overmatched by the James Gang. We'll need damn near perfect games from Rose and Noah to even make it interesting the rest of the way.

I want the Bulls to hold serve at home to at least make this thing interesting. The squad played well last night, but damn that fourth quarter.:mad:

[SHARKDIESEL]

CAVS, Celtics, Hawks, Magic
Cavs, Magic
CAVS


Lakers, Nuggets, Dallas, Suns
Lakers, Dallas
Dallas

KING JAMES 1st ring.

SHAQDIESEL 5th ring.

[SHARKDIESEL]

Dang... the C's are giving the heat a DRUBBING!!!

Ray Allen 7 for 9 from the 3pt line in the 3rd qtr?

[Qwasian]

I don't think the cav's are gonna do it for some reason...... maybe they will though

[The Dre Era]

Durant put Kobe to sleep!!!!!!!!!

[Mercury]

Derrick Rose made the Cavs look foolish!

[Qwasian]

rose had a couple not so bright moments also though, I felt like they should have glided thru on the end of that game for the win, instead they almost lost it

[The Dre Era]

Where you at Merc Bahahahahahahahahahahaaaa!
Yall getting styled on by a 8th seed
Koooooooobeeeeeeee!

[Qwasian]

I gotta rock w/ the thunder man, lets go underdogz.........lol

[The Dre Era]

I gotta rock w/ the thunder man, lets go underdogz.........lol
lol man that would be crazy if they beat the lakers

lol @ kobe leaving the bench early in the 4th quarter
sore loser

[Mercury]

Dre yall better worry about them Bulls and stop worrying about what we doing! Derek Rose laying the SMACKDOWN on yall

[Qwasian]

rose is looking good but I definately see him get frustrated in a few situations and seen him shut down when he needed to be shut down

[Mercury]

yeah he CAN be contained but he can also heat up in an instant and score points in bunches too. They had to put Lebron on him some plays to stop him from going bonkers.

[The Dre Era]

Dre yall better worry about them Bulls and stop worrying about what we doing! Derek Rose laying the SMACKDOWN on yall
looks at the score of the Cavs/Bulls Game
i think well be just fine :D

[Qwasian]

looks at the score of the Cavs/Bulls Game
i think well be just fine :D

yeah i'm more worried about the thunder beating lakers than the bulls beating the cavs....... the reason being is, I could see them just out hustlin the lakers & stealing that shit away from em if they go back & forth...... they could steal the last joint on lakers floor in my opinion, hard to say though, lets see how it roll

[Ju?]

Not for nothing, but Ray Allen is the greatest 3-point shooter I've ever seen.

[ben_nice]

lakers are in serious trouble.... they have no bench.... derek fisher cant stay in front of westbrook even a little bit.... the thunder play hard, and they have a serious home court advantage in okc... one of the best home crowds in the nba

the bulls had no chance of beating the cavs, they got their game in game 3

[Mojo]

Yeah, the biggest problem with LAL is Fisher and Westbrook is a horrible mismatch. Fisher and just about any guard in the league is a mismatch...

[ben_nice]

Yeah, the biggest problem with LAL is Fisher and Westbrook is a horrible mismatch. Fisher and just about any guard in the league is a mismatch...

can the lakers borrow one of the cavs guards they aint playin like Gibson or Telfair

[The Dre Era]

yeah i'm more worried about the thunder beating lakers than the bulls beating the cavs....... the reason being is, I could see them just out hustlin the lakers & stealing that shit away from em if they go back & forth...... they could steal the last joint on lakers floor in my opinion, hard to say though, lets see how it roll
My only worry is Orlando

37 points on 17 shots
Kobe better be taking notes

[Mercury]

Kobe barely shot the ball yesterday and look what happened. Maybe he NEED to hoist up 30 shots because Lord knows Artest and gang wasn't scoring

[Qwasian]

Kobe barely shot the ball yesterday and look what happened. Maybe he NEED to hoist up 30 shots because Lord knows Artest and gang wasn't scoring

aight lets look at this now before everything unfolds, I said this last time and people beat me to death & said I was a hater.......

kobe is clearly not showing up in games....... that game in particular...... if he would have just shot the ball they could have easily won, he showed up & just refused to shoot......he has done this for years, just doesn't even shoot for full quaters..... that shit be looking like he's being paid off to me......or just not showing up.

[ben_nice]

aight lets look at this now before everything unfolds, I said this last time and people beat me to death & said I was a hater.......

kobe is clearly not showing up in games....... that game in particular...... if he would have just shot the ball they could have easily won, he showed up & just refused to shoot......he has done this for years, just doesn't even shoot for full quaters..... that shit be looking like he's being paid off to me......or just not showing up.

well he does tend to start games passing the ball and getting guys shots.... the game plan was to get bynum and gasol going and use the lakers big advantage in the post.... so maybe Kobe was tryin to show Phil, that game plan wasnt going win them a title

but i just think.... Kobe right now, cant do it.... his shooting hand being fukked up has killed his outside shot, his knee and ankle have been banged up, he doesnt get the elavation anymore.... guys are defending him tight on the perimeter, knowing they have help behind them if he does get by them, the thunder have length with Green, Durant, Thabo guarding him quite a bit... plus the thunder dont have too stay home on any of the lakers "shooters", artest, odom, brown, farmar arent makin jump shots so they are clogging the paint and contesting everything in the paint

imo the lakers might be better off playin big, since the thunder have a huge quickness edge anyway.... play Kobe at point, with Artest, Odom, Gasol and Bynum, something they havent tried all season

[The Dre Era]

Kobe is a diva and is only not shooting because hes been getting criticized for ballhoggin the past few games with poor shooting percentages going for example 8-26 FG
He is not taking advantage of the great team he has around him. and as a result it kills the balance of the team. They are not playing team ball
and Kobe leaving the Bench going to the locker room midway in the 4th quarter definitely does not help at all in regards to him being a leader of that team.
Hes thinking more about himself and not the team

[ben_nice]

Kobe is a diva and is only not shooting because hes been getting criticized for ballhoggin the past few games with poor shooting percentages going for example 8-26 FG
He is not taking advantage of the great team he has around him. and as a result it kills the balance of the team. They are not playing team ball
and Kobe leaving the Bench going to the locker room midway in the 4th quarter definitely does not help at all in regards to him being a leader of that team.
Hes thinking more about himself and not the team

he doesnt have a great team around.... Gasol is the only other "great" player on the team.... they have no bench.... they depend on Kobe and Gasol, its a two player team

[The Dre Era]

he doesnt have a great team around.... Gasol is the only other "great" player on the team.... they have no bench.... they depend on Kobe and Gasol, its a two player team
Lakers are still a playoff team without Kobe
Lakers have Odem coming off the bench lol
they have talent and a hall of fame coach.
Lakers went 4-1 without Kobe
They are a more balanced team without him
but of course they can;t win a championship without Kobe
Subtract Kobe and put Lebron on that squad and the lakers would be
unstoppable because lebron would take advantage with what he has around him
keeping everyone involved.

[ben_nice]

Lakers are still a playoff team without Kobe
Lakers have Odem coming off the bench lol
they have talent and a hall of fame coach.
Lakers went 4-1 without Kobe
They are a more balanced team without him
but of course they can;t win a championship without Kobe
Subtract Kobe and put Lebron on that squad and the lakers would be
unstoppable because lebron would take advantage with what he has around him
keeping everyone involved.

Kobe didnt take a shot for the first 14 minutes the other night and had 4-5 assists and they were down 12

i dont think the lakers would be a playoff team without Kobe for a whole season, they went 6-3 without Kobe this season, its one thing to win a few games before the all star break without him, but they wouldnt have won 50 games without him for a whole season

the lakers talent is vastly over rated... ive watched them all season, LeBron is a better player then Kobe right now, but LeBron doesnt keep everyone involved either much, he gets assists but i think assists are fairly over rated... the cavs offense is LeBron pounding the ball and either shooting a jumper, attacking the basket and finishin or passin... most of the time his 4 team mates arent even on the picture on my tv so its not exactly great team basketball

tell me where "all" this lakers talent is?

Kobe, Gasol, Bynum when healthy, Odom when he elects to play.... who else?

[The Dre Era]

LeBron doesnt keep everyone involved either much, he gets assists but i think assists are fairly over rated... the cavs offense is LeBron pounding the ball and either shooting a jumper, attacking the basket and finishin or passin... most of the time his 4 team mates arent even on the picture on my tv so its not exactly great team basketball

huh?
what?
Lebron's game is almost equivalent to Magic Johnson but better because hes more of a offensive threat.
So you basically saying Magic Johnson didn't keep everybody involved either.
Kobe most definitely has the better team around him compared to Lebron

Gasol = All Star
Odem = All Star
Bynum = young center coming of age
Hall of Fame Coach with 10 Rings

Mo Williams
Anderson Varejao
JJ Hickson would be nothing it it wasn't for Lebron
He definitely makes them better.

[ben_nice]

huh?
what?
Lebron's game is almost equivalent to Magic Johnson but better because hes more of a offensive threat.
So you basically saying Magic Johnson didn't keep everybody involved either.
Kobe most definitely has the better team around him compared to Lebron

Gasol = All Star
Odem = All Star
Bynum = young center coming of age
Hall of Fame Coach with 10 Rings

Mo Williams
Anderson Varejao
JJ Hickson would be nothing it it wasn't for Lebron
He definitely makes them better.

Mo Williams was an all star last season, he was good player before he got to cleveland, the only difference now being hes on tv 20-25 times a year

Jamison has been a 20-10 guy his whole career basically

the cavs are the most talented team in the league....

odom has never been an all star ever.... the lakers did alot more fast breakin then the cavs and yes, i dont remember magic doing as much dribblin and pounding the ball on the perimeter as lebron, which i have nothing against cause its fun to watch when his outside shot is going

lets compare rosters

starters

Bynum vs Shaq (edge Bynum)
Gasol vs Jamison (slight edge Gasol)
Artest vs LeBron (huge edge LeBron)
Kobe vs Parker (big edge Kobe)
Fisher vs Mo Williams (big edge Mo)

bench
Farmar
Shannon Brown
Walton
Odom

vs.

bench
West
Varejao
Moon
Big Z
Hickson
Powe
Gibson
Telfair

big edge to the Cavs.... Odom is the only Laker bench guy who plays well and he doesnt bring it every night

id trade ya the Lakers roster minus Kobe for the Cavs roster minus LeBron today and id love my chances at winning the title

[Qwasian]

I don't get the whole "don't take a shot & get the team involved"


to me that's a crutch, muthafucka take shots and get the team involved at the same time, your one of the best players in the world...... learn how to multi-task for that check you collect muthafucka

[Mercury]

the question is with any team that has a big time scorer...are the players gonna move without the ball? Or are they gonna sit there and watch the all star hoist up shots while they gaze in amazement?

I have to eat my words about being happy about having Artest instead of Ariza. Even though Artest is a better on the ball defender...Ariza's brand of defense led to points with him gambling on steals. It allowed other players to get easy points without having to go thru Kobe first.

I wish Kobe stop trying to gain acceptance and prove points and just do what you wanna do. There's ALWAYS gonna be a large percentage of people that hate his guts for whatever reason...so just play the bad guy and drop 50 on these dudes.

[The Dre Era]

the question is with any team that has a big time scorer...are the players gonna move without the ball? Or are they gonna sit there and watch the all star hoist up shots while they gaze in amazement?

I have to eat my words about being happy about having Artest instead of Ariza. Even though Artest is a better on the ball defender...Ariza's brand of defense led to points with him gambling on steals. It allowed other players to get easy points without having to go thru Kobe first.

I wish Kobe stop trying to gain acceptance and prove points and just do what you wanna do. There's ALWAYS gonna be a large percentage of people that hate his guts for whatever reason...so just play the bad guy and drop 50 on these dudes.
drop 50 with 50 FG attempts lol

[The Dre Era]

Mo Williams was an all star last season, he was good player before he got to cleveland, the only difference now being hes on tv 20-25 times a year

Jamison has been a 20-10 guy his whole career basically

the cavs are the most talented team in the league....

odom has never been an all star ever.... the lakers did alot more fast breakin then the cavs and yes, i dont remember magic doing as much dribblin and pounding the ball on the perimeter as lebron, which i have nothing against cause its fun to watch when his outside shot is going

lets compare rosters

starters

Bynum vs Shaq (edge Bynum)
Gasol vs Jamison (slight edge Gasol)
Artest vs LeBron (huge edge LeBron)
Kobe vs Parker (big edge Kobe)
Fisher vs Mo Williams (big edge Mo)

bench
Farmar
Shannon Brown
Walton
Odom

vs.

bench
West
Varejao
Moon
Big Z
Hickson
Powe
Gibson
Telfair

big edge to the Cavs.... Odom is the only Laker bench guy who plays well and he doesnt bring it every night

id trade ya the Lakers roster minus Kobe for the Cavs roster minus LeBron today and id love my chances at winning the title
you can go out and ask 10 to 15 random people and i bet the majority will say that Kobe has the better overall supporting cast. Mo Williams was only an All Star after Ray Allen got hurt and couldn't play in the game.
Big Z was the last All Star other then Lebron for the Cavs

[Mercury]

the commentators complained of the Lakers bench this whole series so depending who you asked.

You didn't hear the announcers on this weekends games saying that the Cavs had the best all around team right now?

[ben_nice]

you can go out and ask 10 to 15 random people and i bet the majority will say that Kobe has the better overall supporting cast. Mo Williams was only an All Star after Ray Allen got hurt and couldn't play in the game.
Big Z was the last All Star other then Lebron for the Cavs

i dont care what 10-15 random people think.... or what other people think in general, i know what i see........

he still was an all star... so whats ya point???? hes nba all star Mo Williams for the rest of his life....

[ben_nice]

I don't get the whole "don't take a shot & get the team involved"


to me that's a crutch, muthafucka take shots and get the team involved at the same time, your one of the best players in the world...... learn how to multi-task for that check you collect muthafucka

as i said... i think he was tryin 2 save his energy, he doesnt have 2 great halfs in him right now....

[The Dre Era]

the commentators complained of the Lakers bench this whole series so depending who you asked.

You didn't hear the announcers on this weekends games saying that the Cavs had the best all around team right now?
of course when the lakers lose Kobe Stans throw the team under the bus and not kobe:rolleyes:

[The Dre Era]

as i said... i think he was tryin 2 save his energy, he doesnt have 2 great halfs in him right now....
lol at savig his energy
stop giving the damn man an excuse each and every game
how about he played a bad game and is in a shooting slump
can you admit that for once

[SHARKDIESEL]

Kobe didnt take a shot for the first 14 minutes the other night and had 4-5 assists and they were down 12

i dont think the lakers would be a playoff team without Kobe for a whole season, they went 6-3 without Kobe this season, its one thing to win a few games before the all star break without him, but they wouldnt have won 50 games without him for a whole season

the lakers talent is vastly over rated... ive watched them all season, LeBron is a better player then Kobe right now, but LeBron doesnt keep everyone involved either much, he gets assists but i think assists are fairly over rated... the cavs offense is LeBron pounding the ball and either shooting a jumper, attacking the basket and finishin or passin... most of the time his 4 team mates arent even on the picture on my tv so its not exactly great team basketball

tell me where "all" this lakers talent is?

Kobe, Gasol, Bynum when healthy, Odom when he elects to play.... who else?

Ben... they had enough talent to have the best record in the west...

[The Dre Era]

Ben... they had enough talent to have the best record in the west...
Bingo.......

[Mercury]

cavs have enough talent to have the best record in the league

[The Dre Era]

cavs have enough talent to have the best record in the league
Lakers have the best combined talent to win a championship

[SHARKDIESEL]

cavs have enough talent to have the best record in the league

I'm not talking about the Cavs... they have made some moves that make them way better than years past.

I'm just saying... the Lakers had the best record in the west... so lets no act like they suck now all of a sudden.

[The Dre Era]

Join The Movement:
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[Mercury]

I'm not talking about the Cavs... they have made some moves that make them way better than years past.

I'm just saying... the Lakers had the best record in the west... so lets no act like they suck now all of a sudden.

nobody said they sucked. they obviously don't and you would never hear those words out my mouth.

Ben said cavs were more talented. Dre said they werent. Everybody on Inside the NBA said the cavs had the best all around team in the league. I don't know where the Lakers suck came in at

[ben_nice]

of course when the lakers lose Kobe Stans throw the team under the bus and not kobe:rolleyes:

kobe isnt playin well either.... gasol is playin the best ball of any laker but hes gettin out hustled and muscled for rebounds... ron artest is shooting 13% from 3, derek fisher has no chance against westbrook, etc....

[ben_nice]

lol at savig his energy
stop giving the damn man an excuse each and every game
how about he played a bad game and is in a shooting slump
can you admit that for once

hes played a bunch of bad games.... he isnt playin well... but maybe hes in a shooting slump because hes playing with a fukked up shooting hand

i said in decemeber he should have had surgery on it

[ben_nice]

Ben... they had enough talent to have the best record in the west...

it wasnt by much.... the difference between the lakers and the 8 seed jazz last season was 17 games... the difference this year is 7..... lakers started the season 32-9, went 25-16 to end the season, a 7 game difference... so really the lakers were no different the last half of the season then any other team in the west... and i tend to believe your 2nd half record is more like the team you are then first half....

thunder finished 27-14
spurs finished 25-16
blazers finished 25-16
jazz finished 30-11
nuggets 26-15
suns finished 30-11
mavs finished 28-13

every team in the west finished the last 41 games with the same record or a better record then the lakers

[The Dre Era]

hes played a bunch of bad games.... he isnt playin well... but maybe hes in a shooting slump because hes playing with a fukked up shooting hand

i said in decemeber he should have had surgery on it
"because" "because" "because"
he chose not to get the surgery = no longer an excuse
and if that was the case then how about criticize him for basically not coming into this season not healthy and in shape.
That's why the lakers pay him $90 Mil = to produce

[The Dre Era]

it wasnt by much.... the difference between the lakers and the 8 seed jazz last season was 17 games... the difference this year is 7..... lakers started the season 32-9, went 25-16 to end the season, a 7 game difference... so really the lakers were no different the last half of the season then any other team in the west... and i tend to believe your 2nd half record is more like the team you are then first half....

thunder finished 27-14
spurs finished 25-16
blazers finished 25-16
jazz finished 30-11
nuggets 26-15
suns finished 30-11
mavs finished 28-13

every team in the west finished the last 41 games with the same record or a better record then the lakers
You got your Bailout Package Ready

[The Dre Era]

enjoy the fishing trip CHicago
http://www.hoops4thesoul.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/ben-gordon-three.jpg

[Ju?]

What is this I hear about Chris Paul being on the trading block?

[Smoka]

Oh its like that...smh @ Lebron
http://img269.imageshack.us/img269/3084/28c0e05e2f31c5a27763ee6.gif (http://img269.imageshack.us/i/28c0e05e2f31c5a27763ee6.gif/)

[The Dre Era]

Oh its like that...smh @ Lebron
http://img269.imageshack.us/img269/3084/28c0e05e2f31c5a27763ee6.gif (http://img269.imageshack.us/i/28c0e05e2f31c5a27763ee6.gif/)
i see nothing wrong
Bron is more focused on the game then a ball equipment boy

[SHARKDIESEL]

What is this I hear about Chris Paul being on the trading block?

crazy.. but that rook Darren Collison stepped in and didn't miss a beat when CP3 went out injured.

[Smoka]

i see nothing wrong
Bron is more focused on the game then a ball equipment boyIf it were Kobe you would've boycotted all of the Lakers games:rolleyes:

[Mercury]

Lakers laid that SMACKDOWN last night

[The Dre Era]

Lakers laid that SMACKDOWN last night
like i said before, the lakers are unstoppable when Kobe plays team ball keeping everyone involved. so what were you saying yesterday about Kobe not having the best team in the NBA?

[Qwasian]

they really do have a squad man, pau & bynum double doubled last night...... fisher was on point, they was clickin like a muthafucka last night

[Broadway Joe]

lol what a difference a day makes. Yesterday everybody was ready to write the Lakers off, saying the team was wack, now they picking em to win it all again. I wonder what people will say if OKC comes out and blows em out by 30 next game.

[Qwasian]

it's just crazy how the team is, it's like one day they show up & act like they are dead, the next day they come out with energy, if they play w/ energy they got a mean ass squad but it's like they play like old men or someshit....... they just kinda play when they want to, or don't have the gas to just eliminate muthafuckaz on the regular

[Broadway Joe]

on another note, you all think Dallas can come back on San Antonio? I'm a Dirk fan, and I'm tired of them cats getting bounced mad early.

[Mojo]

i see nothing wrong
Bron is more focused on the game then a ball equipment boy

Man whatever. That was intentional and he was just being a dick.

[The Dre Era]

Man whatever. That was intentional and he was just being a dick.
the man was checking in the game
sheesh

[The Dre Era]

All Kobe has to do is keep his team involved and you get results like this
http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a78/nursetpd/TSB/Kobe_Conducts-1.gif

[Mercury]

it's just crazy how the team is, it's like one day they show up & act like they are dead, the next day they come out with energy, if they play w/ energy they got a mean ass squad but it's like they play like old men or someshit....... they just kinda play when they want to, or don't have the gas to just eliminate muthafuckaz on the regular

especially Lamar Odom. I promise you I've seen him take entire games off. Like "yo I don't feel like playing tonite". No way Odom shouldn't be a superstar with his talent. He is a 7 footer who can dribble like a point guard, pass, and hit the 3 ball and dunk on cats with ease. And you MAY get 10 points out of him if that.

[SHARKDIESEL]

especially Lamar Odom. I promise you I've seen him take entire games off. Like "yo I don't feel like playing tonite". No way Odom shouldn't be a superstar with his talent. He is a 7 footer who can dribble like a point guard, pass, and hit the 3 ball and dunk on cats with ease. And you MAY get 10 points out of him if that.

Cats hate when I say this... but I think its easy to get drowned out playing with Kobe.

[The Dre Era]

Cats hate when I say this... but I think its easy to get drowned out playing with Kobe.
Preach!!!!!!!!

[Mercury]

He did the same thing in Miami to a lesser degree

[ben_nice]

"because" "because" "because"
he chose not to get the surgery = no longer an excuse
and if that was the case then how about criticize him for basically not coming into this season not healthy and in shape.
That's why the lakers pay him $90 Mil = to produce

hmmmm he got injuried in season.... i mean his pinky has been fucked but now like the main finger got broke in 3 places during the season.... so he was pretty healthy to start the season, injuries happen, he should have had surgery on it when it happened, since now its basically unfixable

[ben_nice]

You got your Bailout Package Ready

what ya mean bailout package?????

[ben_nice]

crazy.. but that rook Darren Collison stepped in and didn't miss a beat when CP3 went out injured.

Collison did his thing, but hes no Chris Paul......

[ben_nice]

like i said before, the lakers are unstoppable when Kobe plays team ball keeping everyone involved. so what were you saying yesterday about Kobe not having the best team in the NBA?

no.... the lakers are unstoppable when everyone comes to play..... Bynum and Gasol demand the ball and put 40+ points and 20+ boards, Artest makes jumpers and dunks which i havent seen all season, etc...

the lakers played their best game, but its 1 game..... let me see them bring it to okc before we say they are the best team in the nba.... i mean the knicks smacked da mavs by 50 in dallas this season, its 1 game...

[ben_nice]

it's just crazy how the team is, it's like one day they show up & act like they are dead, the next day they come out with energy, if they play w/ energy they got a mean ass squad but it's like they play like old men or someshit....... they just kinda play when they want to, or don't have the gas to just eliminate muthafuckaz on the regular

well the lakers are kind of banged up/old.... gettin 2 days between games was a huge plus for them, and they have 2 days before game 6, so they should have some energy again but we'll see

[ben_nice]

Cats hate when I say this... but I think its easy to get drowned out playing with Kobe.

hmmm Gasol seems to be doing fine, Shaq seemed to deal with it fine.... Ron Artest seems to have no problems shooting 8 3's in a game playin alongside Kobe.....

its not Kobe, its just who Lamar is, thats his makeup, hes a quiet in the background type guy.... lamar has been this way his whole career, flashes of great play and no show games.....

[Ju?]

crazy.. but that rook Darren Collison stepped in and didn't miss a beat when CP3 went out injured.
I'll take him in Miami.

[SHARKDIESEL]

Collison did his thing, but hes no Chris Paul......

cp3 has had trouble staying healthy too

[The Dre Era]

no.... the lakers are unstoppable when everyone comes to play..... Bynum and Gasol demand the ball and put 40+ points and 20+ boards, Artest makes jumpers and dunks which i havent seen all season, etc...

the lakers played their best game, but its 1 game..... let me see them bring it to okc before we say they are the best team in the nba.... i mean the knicks smacked da mavs by 50 in dallas this season, its 1 game...
and my response to that is look at the stats
look at Kobe FG attempts

[Tully Blanchard]

Damn, the Mavericks choke again.

[The Dre Era]

Damn, the Mavericks choke again.
David Stern made sure of that

[Mercury]

damn how we in the middle of the playoffs and the NBA thread damn page. What's everybody's beef with basketball these days?

[Tully Blanchard]

I haven't had too much to say since the Bulls got served. Hopefully we can land a big-time free agent or pick up a strong Power Forward in the draft. We need someone that can grab those offensive boards after we take all of those jumpers.

[Mojo]

I haven't been into it like I used to be. I can't even sit and watch a full game. I'm still interested in who's winning and playing well though.

[SHARKDIESEL]

im glued to it

[Mercury]

Great L.A./Utah game

[Nah]

http://cdn.2dopeboyz.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/97874841.jpg

[Tully Blanchard]

LMAO @ the hecklers with the fruity posters.

[king]

damn how we in the middle of the playoffs and the NBA thread damn page. What's everybody's beef with basketball these days?


I can't really get into the NBA games until the conference finals...I mean most of the playoff games have been blowouts

[SHARKDIESEL]

Everybody is sitting waiting on Lebron to advance.

I keep trying not to think past Boston... but Orlando is looking TOUGH right now.. Even though ATL is suspect. The cavs ran through them too last year almost as bad as they got ran through this year.

As far as Boston... like I said after game 2... they are going to have make an adjustment for Rondo. They talking about putting Lebron on Rondo during some stretches. I like that... but worry that Paul Pierce has been quiet because LJ has had him strapped up. Switching off onto Rondo might let PP get off.

K.G. has actually done well this series too... but I think the cavs can live with that as long as Antwan is hitting shots to balance it out. Ray Allen will always be an X factor.

Looking ahead to Orlando (no-jinx) I'm thinking Shaq is going to be the key to the series. If he can make it to where they don't have to double dwight the whole series then the magic won't get as many open 3pts.

[Qwasian]

realistically, boston is the better team, if cavaliers win, the nba gave it to them..... no way in the hell they should make it past boston/orlando....... they aren't playing on a high caliber......

that foul call shit that has been brought to light is getting too obvious that they are fixing the games at this point to have a cleveland / los angeles finals match up......

you heard it first........:D

[The Dre Era]

realistically, boston is the better team, if cavaliers win, the nba gave it to them..... no way in the hell they should make it past boston/orlando....... they aren't playing on a high caliber......

that foul call shit that has been brought to light is getting too obvious that they are fixing the games at this point to have a cleveland / los angeles finals match up......

you heard it first........:D
what happen last game
they fixed a ass whipping?

[Qwasian]

teams tend to get frustrated easily when fucked up calls are made and they see that they can't win anyway....... you can see the shit happen from the beginning of the game, the ref d00d that's telling his story is 13-1 in playoff predictions...... it's obvious that the shit is fixed and that they play it up toward the stars, they always have..... they want kobe vs lebron finals, nike wants it, fans want it, etc etc.

[SHARKDIESEL]

How yall figure they fix that round orange thing to go through the circle thing?

[Mercury]

hold up...so when Kobe win a championship, yall agree that its fix.

Now when Q makes an accusation about the Cavs, now its impossible to fix a game?

Yall gotta be all or nothing with it lol. Yall either agree a fix can be done or not. I'm not a fix believer but I can pull up threads where yall said the Lakers are a fix (DRE ESPECIALLY). So if L.A. can be fixed SO CAN CLEVELAND.

[SHARKDIESEL]

hold up...so when Kobe win a championship, yall agree that its fix.

Now when Q makes an accusation about the Cavs, now its impossible to fix a game?

Yall gotta be all or nothing with it lol. Yall either agree a fix can be done or not. I'm not a fix believer but I can pull up threads where yall said the Lakers are a fix (DRE ESPECIALLY). So if L.A. can be fixed SO CAN CLEVELAND.

You have NEVER heard me claim fix. EVER.

As a matter of fact I have ALWAYS argued that its a hard job to be a ref at ANY level... let alone the NBA.

[Mercury]

You have NEVER heard me claim fix. EVER.

As a matter of fact I have ALWAYS argued that its a hard job to be a ref at ANY level... let alone the NBA.

I know for a fact Dre said games were fixed. Matter of fact he probably said it on THIS board

[SHARKDIESEL]

interesting stat....

LAL 3-1 vs suns THIS season.

LAL 1-4 vs suns in POST season history.

[SHARKDIESEL]

I just looked up the freethrow attempts so far in the boston series

Game 4

CLEV: 39 - Boston: 40

Game 3
CLEV: 34 - Boston: 29

Game 2
CLEV: 38 - Boston: 18

Game 1

CLEV: 31 - Boston: 21

Only time there was a big discrepancy was game 2 and Boston won that game handily.

[Qwasian]

You have NEVER heard me claim fix. EVER.

As a matter of fact I have ALWAYS argued that its a hard job to be a ref at ANY level... let alone the NBA.

have you seen the ref's? show me a pic of "ANY" nba ref that doesn't look skeptical at first sight, ONE SINGLE PIC OF ANY OF THEM.............

them muthafuckaz are recruited to be professional liars...... not nba ref's.....

the calls don't have to be crazy swayed in order to make someone win or lose......

ONE foul call and a made shot can win the game...... so that shit is completely irrelevant.........

why do you think it's always a crazy high ratio of nba wins at home? and every other sport at home? because it's bias. people don't realistically play that much better at home, that's false report

[The Dre Era]

hold up...so when Kobe win a championship, yall agree that its fix.

Now when Q makes an accusation about the Cavs, now its impossible to fix a game?

Yall gotta be all or nothing with it lol. Yall either agree a fix can be done or not. I'm not a fix believer but I can pull up threads where yall said the Lakers are a fix (DRE ESPECIALLY). So if L.A. can be fixed SO CAN CLEVELAND.
to clarify my response
NBA is no longer fundamental basketball, its entertainment
and therefore the higher ups will do whatever it takes to entertain to make more $$$$$$$$$$$$

[Qwasian]

here is just one call of many but the ref was looking directly at this call that went lebrons way, he is directly facing it, right in front and can see it perfectly and called it wrong

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=36nT2osudy0

and for the record, I don't really have an NBA team so nobody can say awww he's mad his team didn't win etc..... because I don't have one.. I just kinda watch it unbias

[The Dre Era]

so down i might not even go to work tomorrow
can't defend my boys tonight
glad i sold my ticket

[Mercury]

damn son LOL

[SHARKDIESEL]

here is just one call of many but the ref was looking directly at this call that went lebrons way, he is directly facing it, right in front and can see it perfectly and called it wrong

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=36nT2osudy0

and for the record, I don't really have an NBA team so nobody can say awww he's mad his team didn't win etc..... because I don't have one.. I just kinda watch it unbias

Dude... there are missed or blown calls in EVERY game on EVERY level.

What you have posted does nothing to prove it was intentional.

[SHARKDIESEL]

Lebron was like a Zombie last night...

I'm still in shock. its gonna take me a minute to gather my thoughts. :(

[Qwasian]

Dude... there are missed or blown calls in EVERY game on EVERY level.

What you have posted does nothing to prove it was intentional.


how do the supposed to be "BEST OF THE BEST" look directly act calls night after night & fuck em up?

how is it difficult to look right at some shit every single night and be wrong?

you'd have to be retarded to think that shit ain't fixed, what about the one's where they call fouls on kats that ain't even in the play? and have people shooting free-throws that were never touched..........

how about the call in the 2nd half last night where they were trying to give cleveland the game........ one trip down cleveland shot a 3, and they gave verejao a foul & shot because him & glen davis collided on the floor out of bounds and the play was over ball was dead..... if the ball wasn't dead then the 3 should not have counted, it led to a 4 point play by cleveland, then lebron comes down next trip flailing around wild as hell travels runs into everybody and they give him a foul.... trying to allow them to get back into the game but they were just getting stomped, even a ref whistle couldn't get em back in that one.

it's questionable ass calls every single nba game...... EVERY GAME...... your telling me they can't call ONE game correctly? or atleast for the most part on point?

lebron runs in the hole & gets the foul every single time.... that's why he's able to constantly go one on one cuz they bail out that dumb shit with foul calls reguardless.

you got a ref that they cast out of the nba for betting that comes thru & predicts all the games pretty much and the way the series will go 100%........

how could it not be fixed? honestly?

the nba ref's, that is all they do....... over & over & over every night..... they can't see the calls? why not? they are paid plenty, they are right on the damn floor. whats so difficult about seeing a foul? YOU ARE ON THE FLOOR WITH YOUR FACE POINTING DIRECTLY AT IT and they fuck up foul calls EVERY GAME

it was getting so bad david stern had to step in & tell people to stop talking about it or face fines.

[SHARKDIESEL]

how do the supposed to be "BEST OF THE BEST" look directly act calls night after night & fuck em up?

how is it difficult to look right at some shit every single night and be wrong?

you'd have to be retarded to think that shit ain't fixed, what about the one's where they call fouls on kats that ain't even in the play? and have people shooting free-throws that were never touched..........

how about the call in the 2nd half last night where they were trying to give cleveland the game........ one trip down cleveland shot a 3, and they gave verejao a foul & shot because him & glen davis collided on the floor out of bounds and the play was over ball was dead..... if the ball wasn't dead then the 3 should not have counted, it led to a 4 point play by cleveland, then lebron comes down next trip flailing around wild as hell travels runs into everybody and they give him a foul.... trying to allow them to get back into the game but they were just getting stomped, even a ref whistle couldn't get em back in that one.

it's questionable ass calls every single nba game...... EVERY GAME...... your telling me they can't call ONE game correctly? or atleast for the most part on point?

lebron runs in the hole & gets the foul every single time.... that's why he's able to constantly go one on one cuz they bail out that dumb shit with foul calls reguardless.

you got a ref that they cast out of the nba for betting that comes thru & predicts all the games pretty much and the way the series will go 100%........

how could it not be fixed? honestly?

the nba ref's, that is all they do....... over & over & over every night..... they can't see the calls? why not? they are paid plenty, they are right on the damn floor. whats so difficult about seeing a foul? YOU ARE ON THE FLOOR WITH YOUR FACE POINTING DIRECTLY AT IT and they fuck up foul calls EVERY GAME

it was getting so bad david stern had to step in & tell people to stop talking about it or face fines.

who in the arena does not make mistakes everynight? BEST OF THE BEST PLAYERS... BEST OF THE BEST COACHES... BEST OF THE BEST ANOUNCERS... etc... all make multiple mistakes every game. Why do hold the refs to a higher standard?

Lebron only shot 2 free throws in the second half.... They were only down 6 at halftime... so when exactly are you saying the refs tried to hand them the game? HOGWASH.

[Qwasian]

think to yourself...... we have seen kobe bryant and lebron james go scoreless for entire quaters of basketball at times in the last few years......

these are some of the best athletes in the world.......I place the blame on the entire system of the nba, i'm saying it's one big political pile of bullshit...... players, coaches, ref's the whole 9.........

the whole shit of kobe being non existant for whole quaters & halfs of basketball, my finger hurts, my elbow hurts, my ankle hurts........ all that shit is bullshit

your shit is either fucked up, or it ain't, it's either broke or it's not....... you don't play with broke fingers, you can't shoot with broke hands/fingers....you don't play basketball with sprained ankles & shit........ that shit is bullshit..........

I played basketball everyday of my life for years..... when I broke my finger, my hand, spraigned my ankle or fucked my knee up, I couldn't even run up & down the court...

I was typically bigger & better than most people I played with and it's no way in the fuck I would play entire quaters of games & not score, or no way in hell that was going to help my team in any way.........

shit is all politics & putting on a show and you can tell by the commissioners answers

"everybody should just be really glad that they are able to be in the league"

meaning "shut the fuck up we know it's rigged bitch, sit your ass down & collect a check, we getting this money"


look at the scores........ it's like different teams show up everynight to play.........

"LeBron James into a miserable 3-for-14 shooting performance and 15 measly points. That included zero field goals in the first half"


your telling me Lebron James the MVP of the NBA can be shut down for an entire half of basketball? on his homefloor?

Shaq can play better than you? and he's been in the league forever and bounced around to numerous teams?

I call bullshit...........

shit ain't about mental toughness or none of that so called moron shit........ he ain't playin.... he runs in the hole almost every night & gets fouls all the sudden he switched his whole gameplan and shoots jumpers & makes none?

FALSE REPORT

[ben_nice]

your shit is either fucked up, or it ain't, it's either broke or it's not....... you don't play with broke fingers, you can't shoot with broke hands/fingers....you don't play basketball with sprained ankles & shit........ that shit is bullshit..........

I played basketball everyday of my life for years..... when I broke my finger, my hand, spraigned my ankle or fucked my knee up, I couldn't even run up & down the court...


so are you sayin.... because you couldnt do it.... it cant be done?????

[SHARKDIESEL]

Also Q Murdah... did you ever play organized ball or are you drawing from your pick-up experiences?

Ben... still think Clevland has the best roster in the league? Funny how fast things can change in two weeks.

[Qwasian]

so are you sayin.... because you couldnt do it.... it cant be done?????

that's exactly what i'm saying, you don't play with broken bones/serious ailments.....

nobody can...... that shit is false report....... people can't physically run up & down the court full time/bang around for 30-40 minutes with serious injuries, not happening, do not believe it.......

[Tully Blanchard]

Dre must be sweating bullets right about now.

[Qwasian]

Also Q Murdah... did you ever play organized ball or are you drawing from your pick-up experiences?

Ben... still think Clevland has the best roster in the league? Funny how fast things can change in two weeks.


ymca, church leagues etc was about the extent of organized ball.... I played every year from around age 10 to about age 18 in those type of leagues non stop.....
my grades were always fucked in school I could never play on the school team. I used to work out & be at most every practice thru middle school & highschool.....

my basketball practice consisted of playing with & gaurding jonathan on a daily basis, so you know I was on top of my shit.........

[The Dre Era]

your telling me Lebron James the MVP of the NBA can be shut down for an entire half of basketball? on his homefloor?



the man is carrying a lot of weight on his shoulders
its definitely possible
it is a tug of war with him right now
people from all sides trying to pull him in different directions

[Qwasian]

oh and lebron will have a fucking ground breaking game next game... already predicted........ gaurantee he scores over 30 next game, i'll paypal bet anybody who want to put $$$ up

[SHARKDIESEL]

oh and lebron will have a fucking ground breaking game next game... already predicted........ gaurantee he scores over 30 next game, i'll paypal bet anybody who want to put $$$ up


If you want to make a bold prediction jump out there and say he will be held to 15 again.

Before last night he AVERAGED 30 a game in the series... so you aint saying nothing new.

Still haven't shown me where the refs tried to fix the game last night.

Down 6 at half. Lebron shoots 2 freethrows in 2nd half. NONE in the third quarter where the C's stretched the lead to 17 by the end... WHERES THE FIX???

[Mojo]

Bron did say something that's true in his press conference. He said that he's spoiled fans, reporters, critics, etc with his play/stats. He didn't shoot particularly well, but he still had 15pts and 7 assists. Those aren't superstar numbers, but they aren't bad either. Every star, including Kobe has had playoff games as bad or worse. Granted, he picked a bad game to not be his best, but it's impossible to be that great (35+pts, 8+ assists, 9+ boards) every game.

[SHARKDIESEL]

And if the Cavs get bounced this year... are Stern's fixes working?

[SHARKDIESEL]

ymca, church leagues etc was about the extent of organized ball.... I played every year from around age 10 to about age 18 in those type of leagues non stop.....
my grades were always fucked in school I could never play on the school team. I used to work out & be at most every practice thru middle school & highschool.....

my basketball practice consisted of playing with & gaurding jonathan on a daily basis, so you know I was on top of my shit.........

who is jonathan? LOL

In those leagues you played in... you never saw at least one team pissed that the calls weren't going their way? Every league every game... there is someone complaining about calls. What are these refs' motivations for making bad calls? Are they paid off in the church league too?

[ben_nice]

Also Q Murdah... did you ever play organized ball or are you drawing from your pick-up experiences?

Ben... still think Clevland has the best roster in the league? Funny how fast things can change in two weeks.

yes i do think the Cavs have the most talented roster in the league... Orlando is a close second.... and ive said that all season..... the Cavs have the most talent, they arent playin well..... the suns are in the western conf finals but i think a few teams like the Spurs, Nuggets, Mavericks, etc... are more talented tho each of them has some flaws, the Suns are just playin their best ball, tho the west is different animal since most of the teams are fairly equal in talent it all comes down to matchups

[ben_nice]

that's exactly what i'm saying, you don't play with broken bones/serious ailments.....

nobody can...... that shit is false report....... people can't physically run up & down the court full time/bang around for 30-40 minutes with serious injuries, not happening, do not believe it.......

well then i guess everything in the world should be judged on what you can do because the world revolves around you, if you cant do it, it cant be done......

[ben_nice]

And if the Cavs get bounced this year... are Stern's fixes working?

i hate when people say the nba is fixed.... it isnt fixed, some of the refs are just plain bad at their jobs.... but the college basketball refs are far worse and i never hear anything about that... and the ncaa is also a billion dollar corp...... but oh yea the players are "student athletes" lol...........

[SHARKDIESEL]

yes i do think the Cavs have the most talented roster in the league... Orlando is a close second.... and ive said that all season..... the Cavs have the most talent, they arent playin well..... the suns are in the western conf finals but i think a few teams like the Spurs, Nuggets, Mavericks, etc... are more talented tho each of them has some flaws, the Suns are just playin their best ball, tho the west is different animal since most of the teams are fairly equal in talent it all comes down to matchups

Like I said before.. this is the best team Cleveland has fielded .. but there are several teams that have a better 2-10 than Cleveland. Hell a healthy Boston has more talent than Cleveland as we are seeing right now... Lakers.... Mavs... Magic... Nuggets... Spurs... Suns all in my opinion have a better 2-10.

[Qwasian]

who is jonathan? LOL

In those leagues you played in... you never saw at least one team pissed that the calls weren't going their way? Every league every game... there is someone complaining about calls. What are these refs' motivations for making bad calls? Are they paid off in the church league too?

jonathan hargett......

occasionally, but I have never seen anything as blatant as the nba calls.......... and as much controversy surrounding it, of course it's a bigger league, but shit they got review panels & the whole 9 and still fuck calls up that are major ass calls that fuck the whole game up at times, im gonna point a few out in the next cleveland game thursday night, please keep ya eyes open, I'm sure it will be a showoff performance by lebron and several sketchy calls

[Qwasian]

yes i do think the Cavs have the most talented roster in the league... Orlando is a close second.... and ive said that all season..... the Cavs have the most talent, they arent playin well..... the suns are in the western conf finals but i think a few teams like the Spurs, Nuggets, Mavericks, etc... are more talented tho each of them has some flaws, the Suns are just playin their best ball, tho the west is different animal since most of the teams are fairly equal in talent it all comes down to matchups

cav's have the most talented roster in the league? what type of dust are u sniffin..... seriously

[Mercury]

for real, nobody is mad that Lebron didn't shoot well.They are mad because he seemed to not try or care. This big 6'8" gorilla/cheetah hybrid can get to the paint at will and he shooting jumpers the whole game? and his jumper ain't even wet like that? Cut that Magic johnson act out and turn to Jordan. He can EASILY get to the paint at will and shoot freethrows.

[SHARKDIESEL]

ymca, church leagues etc was about the extent of organized ball.... I played every year from around age 10 to about age 18 in those type of leagues non stop.....
my grades were always fucked in school I could never play on the school team. I used to work out & be at most every practice thru middle school & highschool.....

my basketball practice consisted of playing with & gaurding jonathan on a daily basis, so you know I was on top of my shit.........

Wait aren't you like 6'13" or something? You would have the good folk of danjazone believe you guarded a 5'10" point guard daily and you are a post player.

:rolleyes:

[Qwasian]

well then i guess everything in the world should be judged on what you can do because the world revolves around you, if you cant do it, it cant be done......

as you can see, I said NOBODY can do it, has nothing to do with me really........

u not gonna sprain ya ankle and run up no fucking nba floor against the top players & compete.... NOT GOING TO HAPPEN..... that's bullshit, I do not believe anyone in the league can do that.......

the broken finger they might can tape & it fuck ya shooting up a bit, but the ankle or leg injury etc, hells no.........

torn ligaments in legs? sprain ankles etc? hellz nah

[Qwasian]

for real, nobody is mad that Lebron didn't shoot well.They are mad because he seemed to not try or care. This big 6'8" gorilla/cheetah hybrid can get to the paint at will and he shooting jumpers the whole game? and his jumper ain't even wet like that? Cut that Magic johnson act out and turn to Jordan. He can EASILY get to the paint at will and shoot freethrows.

EXACTLY, for him to put on that performance, he didn't try

[Qwasian]

Wait aren't you like 6'13" or something? You would have the good folk of danjazone believe you guarded a 5'10" point guard daily and you are a post player.

:rolleyes:

in middle school I was 5'11 - 6 even.....
in highschool I was around 6'2-6'3.... it wasn't till I was around 18-19 that I became full size & full height.......

I gaurded & played pick up games every single day with jonathan...... he lived a few streets over.... my court is where he played

I was beast mode at basketball until I started gaining weight around age 19.....

the whole henrico highschool team used to play ymca and we used to run they ass regularly.... dunkin all on em & the whole 9..........

everybody that played at highland springs knew I should have been on the team, my grades just stayed fucked up cuz I was trying to get money instead of worried about school.........

[ben_nice]

Like I said before.. this is the best team Cleveland has fielded .. but there are several teams that have a better 2-10 than Cleveland. Hell a healthy Boston has more talent than Cleveland as we are seeing right now... Lakers.... Mavs... Magic... Nuggets... Spurs... Suns all in my opinion have a better 2-10.

i dont think the celtics have more talent, they are just playin better... Rondo is playin out of his mind good... maybe its a chemistry thing in cleveland, only 5 players remain from the cavs team in 08 who took the celtics to 7 games, 2 of which barely play(gibson and big z tho they got minutes last night) or maybe its mike brown.... does he have a rotation? have we figured out why J.J Hickson doesnt play more? he played great in games 1 and 2, 12ppg was a huge part of the cavs 15-0 run in game 2, yet only played 9 minutes the last 2 games

the cavs cant walk the ball up against the celtics... thats the tempo they want to play, the cavs need to speed it up and make the celtics old legs run

its clear to me who should be playing and not be playing... Varejao should be starting, no offense to Shaq but the Cavs are much better against Boston with him on the bench, the cavs are -20 with shaq on the floor this series, they are +8 with Varejao on the floor... thats a 28 point difference, or if ya gonna start shaq, play him 6-8 minutes to start each half.... get Moon, West, Hickson more minutes if Jamison and Mo continue to struggle, play small.....

[Qwasian]

the celtics definately have more talent man...... you gotta be crazy

garnett? rondo? pierce?

and ray allen?

man it ain't nobody on cleveland that can fuck with ray allen outside of lebron...... lets be real about shit now...... you have escaped reality here.......

shaq is better than the celtics big man/men..... but shaq, lebron is the extent of people who are better on cleveland than boston......

pierce can shoot & bang with the best of them when he wants to.... he was arguably playing better than anyone else in the league when they won that year.......

u gotta think lebron & shaq is opening these other fuckers up crazy.... so they stay with nice looks....... those 2 players alone are heavy for any defense....

[ben_nice]

cav's have the most talented roster in the league? what type of dust are u sniffin..... seriously

well they won the most reg season games the last 2 seasons and were the favorites to win the titles the last 2 seasons

the cavs can play big, small, etc.... they have so many different 5 man units they could play... shaq, varejao, hickson, big z, jamison, lebron... even leon powe... how many teams have that many quality frontline players, they got size and strength if they want, small and quick if they choose with LeBron at the 4

[Qwasian]

even with what you said being said..... they still don't have the "MOST TALENTED" roster right now...... that's extremely unrealistic..........

I dont' give a shit if they went undefeated.....

shaq & lebron put gaping holes in ya defense, that's why they play shaq & lebron instead of verejao.............. shaq alters/blocks out the way people approach the basket without moving.....

taking all bets that lebron has a 35+ point game thursday night and cav's win............

[korleon]

Al Gore was the favorite to beat George Bush
you see how that turned out

[AliAllWorld]

I'm not really into B-Ball that much, but I do know enough that Lebron was not doing shit. I saw this tweet this morning from somebody that was there.....Did anybody else see this when they were up by 8?????? Do you think Lebron didnt score because he wanted to send a message to the coach????????

Like I said I have not been really following the playoffs that much.


KingLou_: Twitter you don't realize this but Lebron litterally yelled at Mike Brown while we were up 8 in the second and asked him wtf are you doin?

[ben_nice]

the celtics definately have more talent man...... you gotta be crazy

garnett? rondo? pierce?

and ray allen?

man it ain't nobody on cleveland that can fuck with ray allen outside of lebron...... lets be real about shit now...... you have escaped reality here.......

shaq is better than the celtics big man/men..... but shaq, lebron is the extent of people who are better on cleveland than boston......

pierce can shoot & bang with the best of them when he wants to.... he was arguably playing better than anyone else in the league when they won that year.......

u gotta think lebron & shaq is opening these other fuckers up crazy.... so they stay with nice looks....... those 2 players alone are heavy for any defense....

really not a lot of celtics are doin shit... Marquis Daniels no impact, Rasheed Wallace ????, Michael Finley no impact, Nate Robinson no impact, Kendrick Perkins isnt playin that good

the celtics are playin 8 guys.... and Pierce didnt do shit till game 5

the cavs should be runnin the celtics out the gym, 6 of the celtics core guys dont wanna run, speed the game up, press if ya have to, make ray allen, pierce and garnett bring the ball up the court, it will slow down the celtics half court offense since they need time to run their stuff... and the cavs are the deeper, younger team

[korleon]

Lebron might be betting on himself... lol
like to place a bet to lose would be a HUGE payday

[ben_nice]

even with what you said being said..... they still don't have the "MOST TALENTED" roster right now...... that's extremely unrealistic..........

I dont' give a shit if they went undefeated.....

shaq & lebron put gaping holes in ya defense, that's why they play shaq & lebron instead of verejao.............. shaq alters/blocks out the way people approach the basket without moving.....

taking all bets that lebron has a 35+ point game thursday night and cav's win............

huh???? shaq doesnt gaping holes in nobodys defense.... the celtics are defending him str8 up with kendrick perkins..... and want the cavs to pound the ball into shaq all game..... shaq on defense is a huge advantage for boston... have you been watching? this isnt 2000 shaq or even 2006 shaq..... he isnt the same guy, he got 11fga's and 10fta's and scored 21 points and it sounds like he had a good game right???? trust me it was by design on the celtics behalf, they want him to take all the shots, slow the game down and pound it with shaq, they gonna play him str8 up with perkins and it takes the cavs away from what they did when they were playin their best this season... its no accident the cavs went 21-4 without shaq in the lineup when lebron played....

[Qwasian]

slowing the game down & letting shaq get off won't work for the celtics.... lebron would eat they ass alive like that if he was playing properly

[ben_nice]

slowing the game down & letting shaq get off won't work for the celtics.... lebron would eat they ass alive like that if he was playing properly

slowing the game done and lettin shaq get off is workin for the celtics..... how could lebron eat they ass alive like that??????????? he doesnt have the BALLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL LLLLLLLLLLL LLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Qwasian]

slowing the game done and lettin shaq get off is workin for the celtics..... how could lebron eat they ass alive like that??????????? he doesnt have the BALLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL LLLLLLLLLLL LLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

yeah, as if shaq is going to play 48 minutes and score all the points, it's a given that lebron is going to get his points @ the same time obviously shaq doesn't even score a quater of the points for the team

[ben_nice]

yeah, as if shaq is going to play 48 minutes and score all the points, it's a given that lebron is going to get his points @ the same time obviously shaq doesn't even score a quater of the points for the team

shaq shouldnt be playin much at all... hickson and varejao should be playin more mintues then him

[Qwasian]

you are overreacting to what is being said for some reason....... you have taken what I said and acted like shaq is supposed to play 48 minute games and score half they points..... that's not the case.... i'm saying he works for what he does and they do play the other guys........ they have what is called a rotation of players in basketball...........lol wtf man....... you hyped up on this nba shit to the point you over-reacting to statements

[SHARKDIESEL]

Cut to the chase Q...

Whats you take on the series? You foresee a big game from LBJ... so does that mean you got it going 7? Who wins the series?

[Qwasian]

Cut to the chase Q...

Whats you take on the series? You foresee a big game from LBJ... so does that mean you got it going 7? Who wins the series?


ok what has been said by the conspiracy hype men is........

lebron has a huge next game.... which I believe myself

then it goes to game 7, lebron has an average game, very close between the 2 teams, and a few foul calls sway it to cleveland........

if this happens, there is no way in the hell you will ever be able to tell me the NBA is not fixed..........


what I honestly believe will happen, lebron has a big next game, they push it to game 7 and lose........ that's just what I feel like will happen.....I don't even think bad officiating can save him from losing this series, but if its does, it's fixed in my opinion 100%.

if it's lebron vs kobe in the finals, shit is rigged..........

if it's not, then i'll lay off that theory :D

shaq & lebron vs kobe in the finals.... that just looks to be a huge money draw... and to have the whole kobe vs lebron thing and shaq even be on the cav's.....

shit just seems sketchy.

i'll be tuned in tonight to watch lebron light it up and run to the hole a million times for foul shots......

[SHARKDIESEL]

ok what has been said by the conspiracy hype men is........

lebron has a huge next game.... which I believe myself

then it goes to game 7, lebron has an average game, very close between the 2 teams, and a few foul calls sway it to cleveland........

if this happens, there is no way in the hell you will ever be able to tell me the NBA is not fixed..........


what I honestly believe will happen, lebron has a big next game, they push it to game 7 and lose........ that's just what I feel like will happen.....I don't even think bad officiating can save him from losing this series, but if its does, it's fixed in my opinion 100%.

if it's lebron vs kobe in the finals, shit is rigged..........

if it's not, then i'll lay off that theory :D

shaq & lebron vs kobe in the finals.... that just looks to be a huge money draw... and to have the whole kobe vs lebron thing and shaq even be on the cav's.....

shit just seems sketchy.

i'll be tuned in tonight to watch lebron light it up and run to the hole a million times for foul shots......

http://fermentation.typepad.com/photos/uncategorized/2007/06/27/tinfoil.jpg

[Qwasian]

put your money up, i'll bet any amount you want lebron scores over 30 points tonight, paypal is qwasian2000@yahoo.com

test your knowledge...........

[SHARKDIESEL]

put your money up, i'll bet any amount you want lebron scores over 30 points tonight, paypal is qwasian2000@yahoo.com

test your knowledge...........

before game 5 he AVERAGED 30 points a game in the series. ( and damn near 30 a game for the last 3 years regular season)

If in game 5 he scored LESS than 30... what would the math say he is MOST likely to do in game 6? Score MORE than 30 right? That is no bold prediction AT ALL.

[SHARKDIESEL]

How many freethrows will he attempt tonight?

How much will boston or clevland win by tonight?

Will anyone beside Lebron go for 20+?

Those are the sort of things that would impress me...

[ben_nice]

you are overreacting to what is being said for some reason....... you have taken what I said and acted like shaq is supposed to play 48 minute games and score half they points..... that's not the case.... i'm saying he works for what he does and they do play the other guys........ they have what is called a rotation of players in basketball...........lol wtf man....... you hyped up on this nba shit to the point you over-reacting to statements

im sayin.... he doesnt work for this team.... against the celtics...... the cavs in general play better when hes on the bench but espically against the celtics

in the 7 games they've played against boston with shaq all season, boston outscores the cavs by 28 when shaq is on the floor

shaq -28
varejao +25

on the season its

shaq +96
varejao +513

dont tell me about rotations.... Mike Brown doesnt have one and its about to be the 93rd game of the season, Big Z and Gibson played 11 total minutes in the first 4 games of the series yet played 26 minutes in game 5.... first half minutes in a close game at that, ask any cavs fan, they will tell you Mike Brown has no clue what hes doing, you cant be making panic moves in the first half of a close important playoff game at home.... why did delonte west play 25mpg in the reg season, almost 28mpg against the bulls and almost 27mpg the first 4 games of the series and only play 9 minutes in game 5 if Mike Brown has a rotation?

[Cherry Almond Jergen's]

I didnt know brother Q follows sports this closely lol

[Qwasian]

im sayin.... he doesnt work for this team.... against the celtics...... the cavs in general play better when hes on the bench but espically against the celtics

in the 7 games they've played against boston with shaq all season, boston outscores the cavs by 28 when shaq is on the floor

shaq -28
varejao +25

on the season its

shaq +96
varejao +513

dont tell me about rotations.... Mike Brown doesnt have one and its about to be the 93rd game of the season, Big Z and Gibson played 11 total minutes in the first 4 games of the series yet played 26 minutes in game 5.... first half minutes in a close game at that, ask any cavs fan, they will tell you Mike Brown has no clue what hes doing, you cant be making panic moves in the first half of a close important playoff game at home.... why did delonte west play 25mpg in the reg season, almost 28mpg against the bulls and almost 27mpg the first 4 games of the series and only play 9 minutes in game 5 if Mike Brown has a rotation?



explain to me why your talking about delonte west? which has nothing to do with shaq........

and worried about shaq who is only playing half the game, your acting like verejao isn't playing or something? he has more minutes per game that shaq in the playoffs......with less production.......which pretty much makes you "WRONG"

mike brown might make panic moves in the first half because the so called best NBA player in the world & MVP didn't score a point........ I think that's time to panic for any team.......

not sure where you got delonte west stats at, but on his stat page on NBA he has similiar minutes per game as he did the whole season and similiar productivity, so I tried to kinda listen to ya theory, but it sounds like you watched one game & overreacted to that one game..... that's not the true stats on how they have been playing which is similiar to the regular season stat wise. delonte west averages less than 10 points a game at any given time, It's hard to see why you make that a key factor in all this?

[SHARKDIESEL]

I didnt know brother Q follows sports this closely lol

He don't... not with all the conspiracy BS talk.

Basically if the best team in the east (reg season) and the best team in the west (reg season) go to the finals its a fix.

:rolleyes:

If lebron scores 1 point above his average tonight its a fix.

:rolleyes:

[ben_nice]

explain to me why your talking about delonte west? which has nothing to do with shaq........

and worried about shaq who is only playing half the game, your acting like verejao isn't playing or something? he has more minutes per game that shaq in the playoffs......with less production.......which pretty much makes you "WRONG"

mike brown might make panic moves in the first half because the so called best NBA player in the world & MVP didn't score a point........ I think that's time to panic for any team.......

not sure where you got delonte west stats at, but on his stat page on NBA he has similiar minutes per game as he did the whole season and similiar productivity, so I tried to kinda listen to ya theory, but it sounds like you watched one game & overreacted to that one game..... that's not the true stats on how they have been playing which is similiar to the regular season stat wise. delonte west averages less than 10 points a game at any given time, It's hard to see why you make that a key factor in all this?

you said Mike Brown has a rotation... i pointed out Delonte to disprove what you said

shaq is playin 23.4mpg, varejao is playin 20.4mpg this series and shaq played 27 minutes in game 5 to varejao's 17.... less production????? dont look at points, shaq should be more way productive in that department, varejao has taken 41 shots in the playoffs, shaq has taken 49 shots this series and trust me the celtics want him to continue to shoot....

it isnt time to panic in the first half when your only down 6 points at halftime.... thats 2 possessions, you are sayin i over reacted to one game, mike brown over reacted to 1 half and not even a full half of basketball

delonte west can score and have big games.... im takin about his minutes, 27 minutes in game 1, 31 minutes in game 2, 29 minutes in game 3, 20 minutes in game 4 and 9 minutes in game 5

you need to stop just lookin at points, theres more to basketball then points

[Qwasian]

considering he's way off his average..........:rolleyes:

he had 38 first game, 22 second game, and 15 3rd game.......

and they going to be in boston..........i'd say that gives pretty good reason to say he wouldn't score over 30.......

[king]

I don't see how anybody can look at that =/- and say the Cavs are better with Shaq on the floor

[ben_nice]

considering he's way off his average..........:rolleyes:

he had 38 first game, 22 second game, and 15 3rd game.......

and they going to be in boston..........i'd say that gives pretty good reason to say he wouldn't score over 30.......

he had 38 in game 3, 22 in game 4 and 15 in game 5

seeing how LeBron is averaging 32ppg the last 10 times he played in Boston(reg season and playoffs).... you saying hes gonna score 30+ isnt sayin much

[The Dre Era]

lol yall are hilarious
dammit the cavs are winning in 7
nuff said..........

[ben_nice]

lol yall are hilarious
dammit the cavs are winning in 7
nuff said..........

the cavs should, they are the better team.... keep the faith dre, the cavs still have life

[king]

the cavs should, they are the better team.... keep the faith dre, the cavs still have life

I'll take the best matchup over the best team

[SHARKDIESEL]

I know one thing... I'm turning my cell off at 7:59 tonight.

muy nervioso!

[ben_nice]

I'll take the best matchup over the best team

well if Mike Brown knew what he was doing, the cavs could have both

[ben_nice]

I know one thing... I'm turning my cell off at 7:59 tonight.

muy nervioso!

agreed.... ive already sent out a massive text message to let everyone know

[king]

well if Mike Brown knew what he was doing, the cavs could have both

Honestly I don't even think he tries to coach sometimes. Just looking at him he always has that confused expression on his face.

[Qwasian]

I don't see how anybody can look at that =/- and say the Cavs are better with Shaq on the floor

probably because it's not reflected that way in the playoffs I guess........ that stat is not holding true currently in the games, verejao has less production on the floor than shaq does vs the celtics....... who knows? he honestly could have completely made that stat up, I haven't seen it anywhere posted......but it could also be true? however it's not ringing true right now, shaq is playing way better. shaq is doubling verejao's production on the floor and the minutes of verejao aren't limited...... he's talking out his ass.... verejao only scores 8points a game during the regular season.... how realistic is it that the stat he posted could even be accurate?

[ben_nice]

probably because it's not reflected that way in the playoffs I guess........ that stat is not holding true currently in the games

yes it is..... the +/- in this series is similiar

[Qwasian]

yes it is..... the +/- in this series is similiar

says who? show me that stat on nba.com or wherever you getting it from

how can the team be worse if shaq is putting up better #'s all the way across the board then verejao? verejao isn't doing shit man...... are u saying they should take the center position completely off the floor? where do you come up with this silly shit from?

there is more to the game then points? I agree.... however verejao isn't doing anything, he's basically been a placemat, shaq's freethrow productivity is higher as well..........how the hell can a team be better with someone who has no stats? no points? no production? delonte west ain't shit either, he don't have no damn hot nights in the playoffs, I haven't seen him step in & do shit as of yet.......if he has a breakaway night he puts up 14, and that's average at best.

I think your analyzing basketball to the point you escape reality in favor of what you want to think....... facts are facts man..... productivity doesn't lie... the #'s are not there to support your claim...... if you wanna blame it on magic that verejao brings to uplift the players, that's cool & all, but that shit ain't lead to no points, rebounds, assists, blocks, or any of that shit which typically wins games.

[The Dre Era]

the cavs should, they are the better team.... keep the faith dre, the cavs still have life
man if they lose im gonna have a serious attitude the whole weekend

[Mercury]

dre this is the perfect time to be confident/arrogant

don't say "if they lose"...say "when they win"

[Qwasian]

they are gonna win tonight, I have no doubt about that...... 100% gauranteed......

it's game 7 i'd be worried about

[Smoka]

did this grown ass nigga say he was gonna have an attitude all week if they lose??? lmao!!!

[Qwasian]

did this grown ass nigga say he was gonna have an attitude all week if they lose??? lmao!!!

should have definately been followed by "NO GURU"

[The Dre Era]

did this grown ass nigga say he was gonna have an attitude all week if they lose??? lmao!!!
damn right
i got money invested in this
let your redskins or cowboys choke
you not gonna be pissed????????????
i got too much trash talking invested in this

The Drive
The Shot
The Fumble

Cleveland Sports Culture
not another failure
ugh!!!!!!!!!!
i need a drink right now dammit

[The Dre Era]

dre this is the perfect time to be confident/arrogant

don't say "if they lose"...say "when they win"
im good as soon as i get a drink
about to bounce to espn zone in DC

[king]

says who? show me that stat on nba.com or wherever you getting it from

how can the team be worse if shaq is putting up better #'s all the way across the board then verejao? verejao isn't doing shit man...... are u saying they should take the center position completely off the floor? where do you come up with this silly shit from?

there is more to the game then points? I agree.... however verejao isn't doing anything, he's basically been a placemat, shaq's freethrow productivity is higher as well..........how the hell can a team be better with someone who has no stats? no points? no production? delonte west ain't shit either, he don't have no damn hot nights in the playoffs, I haven't seen him step in & do shit as of yet.......if he has a breakaway night he puts up 14, and that's average at best.

I think your analyzing basketball to the point you escape reality in favor of what you want to think....... facts are facts man..... productivity doesn't lie... the #'s are not there to support your claim...... if you wanna blame it on magic that verejao brings to uplift the players, that's cool & all, but that shit ain't lead to no points, rebounds, assists, blocks, or any of that shit which typically wins games.


http://www.nba.com/statistics/plusminus/plusminus_sort.jsp?pcomb=1&season=42009&split=9&team=Cavaliers

Verejao is +30
Shaq is -7

[Qwasian]

this stat doesn't mean verejao is worth a fuck, all it means is that he scores less and the rest of the team has to carry him, how is that a relevant stat to being good? I don't get that factor..... of course if someone steps on the court and doesn't score the rest of the team would have to pick it up around them? by that stat lebron james isn't the best person on the team, which we all know is bullshit... that's the most irrelevant stat i've seen to date....... a key factor they should put into that is minutes & productivity, and the stat would dramatically change to have lebron first & shaq second.........

lol @ people using that lame ass stat to act like the team is better with verajao...... he doesn't score.... who gonna provide the offense when he's on the floor? they strugglin last game & shaq put up 21 or they would have been blow so far outta the water it would have been rediculous...... verajao for the full game would have gotten you less productivity PERIOD.........

[king]

this stat doesn't mean verejao is worth a fuck, all it means is that he scores less and the rest of the team has to carry him, how is that a relevant stat to being good? I don't get that factor..... of course if someone steps on the court and doesn't score the rest of the team would have to pick it up around them? by that stat lebron james isn't the best person on the team, which we all know is bullshit... that's the most irrelevant stat i've seen to date....... a key factor they should put into that is minutes & productivity, and the stat would dramatically change to have lebron first & shaq second.........

lol @ people using that lame ass stat to act like the team is better with verajao...... he doesn't score.... who gonna provide the offense when he's on the floor? they strugglin last game & shaq put up 21 or they would have been blow so far outta the water it would have been rediculous...... verajao for the full game would have gotten you less productivity PERIOD.........


+/- means the team is better with you on the floor

learn up and come back when you have some knowledge on the game

not just your ole Shaq scores more so he must be better BS

[Qwasian]

+/- means the team is better with you on the floor

learn up and come back when you have some knowledge on the game

not just your ole Shaq scores more so he must be better BS


but if you fully understand that stat, you could come in & shoot one basket in 30 seconds leave the floor and be the #1 stat leader #1 on the +/- board, according to that shit the team is better with mo williams than lebron,....... so realistically that stat is bullshit....... it doesn't factor minutes played, etc into it......

if I go by that mo williams is my star player..... that is FALSE........

according to that anderson verejao is better than shaq.... which is false.....

and perkins is the second best player on celtics..........

that shit is false in every sense.......

[ben_nice]

but if you fully understand that stat, you could come in & shoot one basket in 30 seconds leave the floor and be the #1 stat leader #1 on the +/- board, according to that shit the team is better with mo williams than lebron,....... so realistically that stat is bullshit....... it doesn't factor minutes played, etc into it......

if I go by that mo williams is my star player..... that is FALSE........

according to that anderson verejao is better than shaq.... which is false.....

and perkins is the second best player on celtics..........

that shit is false in every sense.......

the stat is legit.... you just dont understand it..... when shaq is in the game, he may score but he is an awful defender..... so the other team scores a lot... varejao might not score like shaq, and he shouldnt, they dont run plays for him or give him touches, but hes a great defender, on the ball and help defender where as shaq isnt, he sets screens as well and all the little things that might not show up in the box score

[ben_nice]

fans chanting NEW YORK KNICKS with bron at the line..... CLASSIC!!!!!!!!!!!!

[king]

but if you fully understand that stat, you could come in & shoot one basket in 30 seconds leave the floor and be the #1 stat leader #1 on the +/- board, according to that shit the team is better with mo williams than lebron,....... so realistically that stat is bullshit....... it doesn't factor minutes played, etc into it......

.

Verajo played more minutes than Shaq

[king]

im good as soon as i get a drink
about to bounce to espn zone in DC

Gonna be a long ride home lol

[king]

they are gonna win tonight, I have no doubt about that...... 100% gauranteed......

it's game 7 i'd be worried about

100% huh lol this and your 30 point guarantee hope you aint bet money

[Scrilla]

Not only is Cleveland a Wack ass city but their Sports team are known to be choke artist! They need to sell the Team and move to Pittsburgh

[Tully Blanchard]

Dre is now officially on Benoit Watch!

[SHARKDIESEL]

man... that ish was fixed.

[Smoka]

Dre is now officially on Benoit Watch!lol dat nigga poutin like a lil bitch about now
*hides Nowitzki jersey...pulls out KG's*

[Rotten]

after watching the game Tuesday, I knew the Celtics was going to win, if they didnt win tonight, they was going to do it, in game 7....

I'm still like Wow, because, to me, this season, the Cavs, did a damn good job, getting a nice supporting cast for Lebron.

Not a hater, but after watching the Cavs play Chicago, and Celtics, if they did manage to get to the conference Finals, I knew... they was getting crushed...their bench wasnt consistent

you cant really blame the coach, either because, he really did have a good player rotation....

I dont know maybe lebron need to rock some pilgrim gear like Kobe, or come out dress like he could be the conductor of the Underground Railroad...


The Cavs choked...

[ben_nice]

you cant really blame the coach, either because, he really did have a good player rotation.......

huh????? really????????????? mike brown is a big part of the blame.... Jamison needs get a big piece of the blame too

Mike Brown should be fired asap

[The Dre Era]

haven't been this down since ohio state lost in the BCS
cant even type right now
drinking a few shots and going to bed
the curse lives

[Broadway Joe]

LOL, for some reason I pictured Dre sulking around the house with house shoes and a bathrobe on looking sad as a bitch when he typed that.

[Mercury]

http://i.ytimg.com/vi/qMzi-FcWQow/0.jpg
damn son....

[Qwasian]

Lord Forgive Me I Have Sinned...............hahahahhahahahahahahaaa


damn man....... lebron just can't get it done............ wonder if this will effect his contract situation money wise? cuz he's great but can't win...... kinda takes away from his importance. reminds me of iverson

[king]

Lord Forgive Me I Have Sinned...............hahahahhahahahahahahaaa


damn man....... lebron just can't get it done............ wonder if this will effect his contract situation money wise? cuz he's great but can't win...... kinda takes away from his importance. reminds me of iverson

Naw, Lebron will still get a max deal. Shit the owner of his new team will make that back plus some in Jersey sales and season ticket sales

[korleon]

Lebron might be betting on himself... lol
like to place a bet to lose would be a HUGE payday

.........................

[Smoka]

haven't been this down since ohio state lost in the BCS
Shit nigga...which one Sorry homie..but ya boi LeBum laid the fuck down in the last 2 minutes... His teamates were looking for LeBum instead of trying to make shots or be aggrressive to the rack.. Well we all WITNESSED him being extremely overrated!!!

[Qwasian]

Shit nigga...which one Sorry homie..but ya boi LeBum laid the fuck down in the last 2 minutes... His teamates were looking for LeBum instead of trying to make shots or be aggrressive to the rack.. Well we all WITNESSED him being extremely overrated!!!

yeah he just doesn't have that killer instinct

[The Dre Era]

i can't defend him
nothing i can say

[Tully Blanchard]

LOL, for some reason I pictured Dre sulking around the house with house shoes and a bathrobe on looking sad as a bitch when he typed that.

Haha! Son is on some Day 26...

http://www.gifsoup.com/view/505155/day-26-sob-o.gif

[king]

Haha! Son is on some Day 26...

http://www.gifsoup.com/view/505155/day-26-sob-o.gif


Damn lol when it rains it pours

[Smoka]

Aye lil buddy..Did you think The Cavs had a chance to beat the Celtics??

http://img714.imageshack.us/img714/918/65944867.gif (http://img714.imageshack.us/my.php?image=65944867.gif)

Dre.. what was your exact reaction to the outcome of the Celtics/Cavs series??
http://img218.imageshack.us/img218/5220/niggafaints.gif (http://img218.imageshack.us/i/niggafaints.gif/)

[The Dre Era]

Aye lil buddy..Did you think The Cavs had a chance to beat the Celtics??

http://img714.imageshack.us/img714/918/65944867.gif (http://img714.imageshack.us/my.php?image=65944867.gif)

Dre.. what was your exact reaction to the outcome of the Celtics/Cavs series??
http://img218.imageshack.us/img218/5220/niggafaints.gif (http://img218.imageshack.us/i/niggafaints.gif/)
yeh yeh yeh get cha cheap shots in now
a fellow DZ member was with me last night watching the game
he can tell you

[Rotten]

huh????? really????????????? mike brown is a big part of the blame.... Jamison needs get a big piece of the blame too

Mike Brown should be fired asap



You think so Ben...I really felt like the biggest issues was players not stepping out\showing up.....

But he probably will be fired though........

on another note....I wonder how this will effect Lebrons legacy...cats been very critical of him so far but...If he dont stay with Cavs, I expect him to the flood gates to open literally


I still think he will get a championship, and all will be forgiven, but I expect next season to be a tough season for him critic wise either way....

Dont worry Dre.....there is always Durant in Okalohoma lol......

I expect alot of Durant nutsack hugging by ESPN \sports media next year......especially after this huge fail by Lebron........

[Smoka]

Merc being silent this morning..lol

[Smoka]

Dont worry Dre.....there is always Durant in Okalohoma lol......

and there is always a spell check available!!!

[Tully Blanchard]

Merc being silent this morning..lol

Merc already hit him with the Nike puppets on the other page, lol.

And LMAO @ spellcheck always being available. You know Rotten is gonna make you pay the price for that one.

[Mercury]

Merc being silent this morning..lol

I have nothing to say LOL. He hates Kobe. I like Lebron. I don't feel particularly happy that they lost because I don't hate Lebron in the least bit. Now all my friends can attest to the fact that I said I didn't have faith in the Cavs going all the way this year anyways, so I was never surprised.

The only thing that surprised me was the lack of effort at times, because in years past, they lost in the playoffs but Lebron tried to will their way into a win.

[SHARKDIESEL]

I have nothing to say LOL. He hates Kobe. I like Lebron. I don't feel particularly happy that they lost because I don't hate Lebron in the least bit. Now all my friends can attest to the fact that I said I didn't have faith in the Cavs going all the way this year anyways, so I was never surprised.

The only thing that surprised me was the lack of effort at times, because in years past, they lost in the playoffs but Lebron tried to will their way into a win.

27 19 10 isn't trying to will his team to win? I don't get that.

What about the 2 3's to cut it to 4 late in the 4th after being down 14?

They got beat for 48 minutes...

not beat for 46 and quit for 2. Just 48 minutes of plain old beat.

Lebron as the leader of that team shoulders the blame... but you can't act like he gave up.

[The Dre Era]

Dont worry Dre.....there is always Durant in Okalohoma lol......


http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a78/nursetpd/TSB/Lebron_Landslide.gif

[The Dre Era]

http://i43.tinypic.com/v8elpi.jpg

[Cherry Almond Jergen's]

http://i43.tinypic.com/v8elpi.jpg

Dude, calm down. Shit happens. There have been countless teams that played great then fucked up...would you like me to create a list?

How about this one? The undeafeated New England Patriots?

and by the way, Houston was the 6th seed in 1995 when they beat the Magic for the title. So having the best record doesn't mean shit

[Tully Blanchard]

Obviously, those jackasses are not experts.

Orlando/Boston is gonna be a helluva series.

[Cherry Almond Jergen's]

what nba legends/good players are currently not in the hall of fame?

[The Dre Era]

Dude, calm down. Shit happens. There have been countless teams that played great then fucked up...would you like me to create a list?

How about this one? The undeafeated New England Patriots?

and by the way, Houston was the 6th seed in 1995 when they beat the Magic for the title. So having the best record doesn't mean shit
the best player in the world doesn't lose in the EC Semifinals

[The Dre Era]

Mike Brown to be Fired Today

[The Dre Era]

Cavs fire Brown after second-round loss

NEW YORK -- The Cleveland Cavaliers have fired head coach Mike Brown, two league sources told SI.com.

Brown, who won the NBA's Coach of the Year Award last year, compiled a 272-138 record in five seasons leading the Cavaliers. He also led the team to the playoffs in each of those seasons, including a Finals apperance in 2007.

Cleveland's inability to return the championship round in the last two years, especially after nabbing the league's best record in both seasons, drew criticism of Brown's ability to manage his team and wining rotations.

A source also told SI.com that GM Danny Ferry will be retained by the team for the forseeable future.

Read More: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2010/basketball/nba/05/14/brown/index.html?eref=twitter_feed#ixzz0nvaMNxep
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[The Dre Era]

out of all the hate mail, text and gifs i been getting today
i thought this one was pretty funny
http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a78/nursetpd/TSB/Lakers_Rock__Roll.gif

[Cherry Almond Jergen's]

the best player in the world doesn't lose in the EC Semifinals

and the best quarterback doesnt throw 50+ td's then lose to the giants

[The Dre Era]

and the best quarterback doesnt throw 50+ td's then lose to the giants
the best QB has a ring

[ben_nice]

27 19 10 isn't trying to will his team to win? I don't get that.

What about the 2 3's to cut it to 4 late in the 4th after being down 14?

They got beat for 48 minutes...

not beat for 46 and quit for 2. Just 48 minutes of plain old beat.

Lebron as the leader of that team shoulders the blame... but you can't act like he gave up.

it did look to me like they did quit the final 2 minutes.....

lebron's numbers look good but besides for those 3's in the 4th quarter, he looked passive and confused mostly, makin lots of bad passes, i think 5-6 of his turnovers were self inflicted and the last 2 minutes, he looked more then happy to pass the ball or not touch the ball at all... the cavs not foulin the celtics when the celtics missed a ton of free throws espically rondo, mo williams bringing the ball slowly in the last minute, i think they did quit on their coach

i dont think they got beat down... the celtics had a ton of turnovers, missed 3's, missed free throws.... and played a fairly sloppy game, the celtics just wanted it more then the cavs last night

[Cherry Almond Jergen's]

the best QB has a ring

with a great supporting cast

[The Dre Era]

with a great supporting cast
a supporting cast he made great

[Rotten]

and there is always a spell check available!!!

I bet you was dancing and pop locking when I made that mistake huh smoka...like I got Rotten now......

http://pic70.picturetrail.com/VOL1818/8789126/22568750/375746758.jpg

Fuck yo spell check lol!

[Smoka]

Nigga carry your book of Eli lookin ass on somewhere..lol
http://img718.imageshack.us/img718/502/elistare1.gif (http://img718.imageshack.us/i/elistare1.gif/)

[The Dre Era]

another good one i received today
the hate is strong
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