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Wallace341
10-18-2011, 07:42 AM
http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/7113335/nba-player-rankings-10
As far as the top 10 go the main thing i disagree with it Blake Griffin...This thread should be fun....
I think griffin is exciting to watch but #10 is absurd. I also think Durant and Kobe are ranked too low.
SHARKDIESEL
10-18-2011, 03:54 PM
Some folks are angry at this list. LOL
Qwasian
10-19-2011, 12:46 PM
why would people disagree with blake griffin? he "IS" the face of the NBA as far as the newcomers go......
he easily plays on a level of a barkley or kemp..... and would anyone really disagree that those players are hall of fame nba status?
pending injury, blake griffin will be that muthafucka in the NBA... gauranteed. his level will surpass lebron very soon if he can keep from being injured...... 5-6 years in the league he will easily be the most popular player, and biggest seller merchandise/jersey wise......
if he was on the lakers, heat, knicks, any of that shit, it wouldn't even be a question, the only reason this is even questioned is because he's on the clippers, he is the #1 player of the entire NBA draft class for the last 3 years. then if you go back the last decade, only rose, durant, lebron are of his caliber.
you could give or take a bit on the list, but that list is pretty much EXACTLY right...........
We're talking about right now. There's no way possible that he's better than Melo. I don't even put him ahead of Amare and Bosh.
Mercury
10-19-2011, 03:48 PM
how are people mad at the list, when the people VOTED on the list?
ESPN didnt make the list, they compiled the votes and thats what came up lol
LOL, this is true Merc.
My bias for the Bulls says that Rose could've been placed higher though, lol.
how are people mad at the list, when the people VOTED on the list?
ESPN didnt make the list, they compiled the votes and thats what came up lol
Think about it, if you voted Kobe #1 player in the NBA and the vote tally puts him at 7 its easy to see why people would be mad at the list. People often take their opinions as fact and get mad when other people differ.
Qwasian
10-20-2011, 03:11 AM
We're talking about right now. There's no way possible that he's better than Melo. I don't even put him ahead of Amare and Bosh.
lay off the hate shit, and realize that blake griffin puts up equal or better stats than any player you've named but he's on the clippers........ THE FIRST YEAR HE STEPPED ON THE FLOOR...........
his stats are better than carmelo's rookie year, and blow amare's rookie year stats out the water, and I really don't know what type of shit your smoking to even consider that he's not better than bosh...... that has got to be a joke.
sometimes I honestly wonder if people even watch basketball.
in 2-3 years if lebron doesn't win a ring, and he doesn't get hurt blake griffin will be the biggest/best player/name in basketball......
there is not a team ANYWHERE that wouldn't take blake griffin over any player in the NBA, except lebron...... and i'd bet a few would take him over lebron.
he will be a hall of fame player, gauranteed.
Jeff Sticks
10-20-2011, 06:52 AM
I don't know bout all that Q lol nigga played one year and you got him in the hall of fame
That's what I'm saying Jeff. Q, do YOU watch basketball or do you just look at a bunch of stats on the back of your basketball cards and determine if someone is a star? I'm not talking about Melo's rookie stats...I'm talking about right now! I'm not hating because I think griffin is talented, but his skill set aren't even close to any of the players I've mentioned. People get hyped about griffin because of the dunks. Have you stopped to think that perhaps his stats are so gaudy because he does, in fact, play for LAC?
Mercury
10-20-2011, 08:19 AM
i was cool with the list other than I would've switched chris paul and Kevin Durant
Qwasian
10-20-2011, 08:43 AM
what does melo, amare, or bosh do that griffin cant?
I don't look at stats on "ANY" card, never have.........
in my opinion you got it twisted saying his skill set isn't on par with melo, amare, or bosh........ your just wrong, PERIOD......
you sound like a sportscenter analyst...... you say exactly what other people say instead of actually watching and seeing what he can do....
this guy runs faster, jumps higher, plays harder than any of those 3.... EASILY........
what skill set is it that you claim he's missing? the footwork he has is off the charts, and he goes around "EVERYBODY" dunks, layups, etc......
his shooting percentage is higher than all 3 of the people you named.
it's like your just forming an opinion because he's a rookie.
do I think because he's on the clippers that his stats are inflated? fuck no, it's a losing team and nobody else stats are inflated on the team, the guy is a fucking animal on the court.
I put him in the hall of fame after one season because the league hasn't seen this caliber of player at the forward position since malone, barkley, kemp.........
if he has a healthy career, he will be in the hall of fame... NIKE is all in with the promotion on him and he has all the contracts in place, the NBA is eating out his hand for the next 10 years.
lol @ not having a solid skill set, yet he's better than the best in every category, so when he gets a skill set that you claim he doesn't have, what does that mean? when he improves upon his rookie season what does that tell you? he smashes everything on the court by a long shot.
Qwasian
10-20-2011, 08:46 AM
i was cool with the list other than I would've switched chris paul and Kevin Durant
I think a healthy chris paul is better than durant overall for a team..... he can do it all when clicking, durant & westbrook couldn't get chemistry last year in the playoffs. durant kinda went silent a few times.
durant is a better score'er...... but paul has alot higher plus minus, he makes the team alot better when he's on the floor.
blake griffin should be around the same area as kevin love, he's flashier but really he doesnt help a team more then kevin love does, but thats no slight or anything because kevin love is good as hell
durant is the best play ground baller in the league, but chris paul makes a whole team better, when he's on everybody on the court is alot better
Qwasian
10-20-2011, 09:31 AM
kevin love is extremely underrated because he's not flashy.... he's an extremely solid player.
the skill/set shit is kinda bullshit though, because lebron has an excellent skill set and it doesn't translate into helping a team "MORE" either. I believe miami could have done just as well without him last year.
Mercury
10-20-2011, 09:42 AM
Kevin Love has an outside shot, but I think Blake Griffin's fg% in the paint more than makes up for it. %wise, from what I read, him and Dwight Howard are pretty much guaranteed 2 points if they can get a shot up in the painted area, and they are FAR ahead of whoever is 3rd, 4th, etc in that category.
I do agree that Chris Paul when healthy is a better player, but I think the voting was strictly from last season to now, and he was hurt for a good portion and had diminished production at times because of it. So in my mind I'm ranking strictly from last year to present, not overall. In an overall sense, chris paul is easily a top 5 player.
Qwasian
10-20-2011, 09:54 AM
I think sometimes people get kinda wrapped up in the overall hype of the NBA etc, I mean but realistically, you only get a blake griffin type of player once a decade probably. the last time I can remember a player like him and as exciting was shawn kemp. and to me he's alot better than kemp. definately think griffin will go down in history......the nba is all about hype, if he gets on a playoff team, shit is going to get insane.....
Mercury
10-20-2011, 12:38 PM
The clippers should be in playoff contention for the 8th seed whenever the next season occurs
Jeff Sticks
10-20-2011, 02:36 PM
The Hall of Fame is serious shit, I wouldn't crown cats this early, need at least 7-8 real solid seasons and major playoff wins to even be considered.
Mercury
10-20-2011, 02:44 PM
The Hall of Fame is serious shit, I wouldn't crown cats this early, need at least 7-8 real solid seasons and major playoff wins to even be considered.
hell more than that! Bernard King ain't in the hall of fame (i dont think) and he was one of the leagues leading scorers for a minute!
You gotta have like 10 all star caliber seasons for them to even CONSIDER you
Jeff Sticks
10-20-2011, 03:01 PM
yeah, real talk, but he played for a crappy team lol did Mitch Richmond ever make it?
Mercury
10-20-2011, 04:00 PM
yeah, real talk, but he played for a crappy team lol did Mitch Richmond ever make it?
not yet...he might not make it even though he sat the bench and got a ring with LA lol.
Qwasian
10-20-2011, 06:05 PM
blake griffin is the most exciting thing in the NBA, with the attitude and sponsors to match it, he will get placed in a good situation if the clippers don't step they shit up.
i'll still be around 5-10 years, log on and see what you have to say then......
just like I can tell you who another break out star is going to be, "WESLEY JOHNSON" with the timberwolves, he was a rookie this year and has the right sponsors etc, watch him become a force.....
nba players play good all the time, it's just depending on how you get covered in the media and support as to how big of a star you become.
of course you gotta have the talent to go with it, but blake griffin does.
Mercury
10-20-2011, 06:45 PM
on the NBA rankings thing, they was saying wesley got next. I havent seen him outside of highlights but analysts spoke highly of him
Jeff Sticks
10-20-2011, 08:20 PM
If he doesn't win, he'll just be another good player.
Qwasian
10-20-2011, 08:37 PM
If he doesn't win, he'll just be another good player.
bullshit mawfukka.......... how many rings barkley got
Yeah its going to be a minute before BG should be in anyone's top 10...he has serious upside...true but his perimeter is game is limited. And I want to see him close in a game that matters. I actually caught alot of clippers games this season, oddly enough...
He has to get them into the playoffs, I mean, KG kept taking an average to slightly above average team to the playoffs (yes he had marbury for two years, then spreewell but both of them were not consistent)
korleon
10-20-2011, 09:53 PM
Blake Griffin
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blake_Griffin
Amar'e Stoudemire
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amar'e_Stoudemire
Carmelo Anthony
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carmelo_Anthony
scroll down and look at stats...
Qwasian
10-21-2011, 06:44 AM
the team has improved, and garnett has never had more production than blake griffin on the court, so clearly he had some type of team around him.
it's not like these people are some type of monsters on the court that are so much better than griffin, they are playing pretty much neck & neck, just on better teams.
Mercury
10-21-2011, 05:16 PM
I don't think BG "needs" a perimeter game being that he's a PF...although it would definately put him out of this stratosphere if he did. If anything, I think he needs more of a post up back to the basket game. He got so much athleticism that he can pretty much take it to the cup at will when he's facing the basket. If you could dump it off to him in the post too, Lord Have Mercy on the NBA.
Jeff Sticks
10-21-2011, 09:25 PM
Q, are you high? Lol dude played one year and you're putting over Barkley and Garnett? Man, BG is gonna be another Shawn Kemp if he don't develop his game like Merc said
Qwasian
10-22-2011, 10:29 AM
Q, are you high? Lol dude played one year and you're putting over Barkley and Garnett? Man, BG is gonna be another Shawn Kemp if he don't develop his game like Merc said
look back in 5-10 years and you'll say, damn Q was exactly right.....
what you don't realize is the shit is setup & marketed a certain way and built for certain players to easily gain momentum and popularity......
he is the only player in the game that goes ape shit and dunks like that, they are going to make him into a huge star as soon as they can get the NBA back on track.
it's crazy that people aren't able to see the shit in motion.....
he has the nike contract, crazy skill level first year in the league, dunks all over the place, is exciting to watch, in a huge market......... how is it not obvious to you that they are setting the guy up to be a big star?
just think about it, when is the last time you saw a player come in the league do what he does with that amount of coverage like that? right in the dunk contest, wins it etc.
the fight is fixed.......... you'll see.........
Jeff Sticks
10-22-2011, 01:13 PM
Oh I agree, he's very exciting and is marketed well. I wish him the best though, seems like a great guy
korleon
10-24-2011, 06:38 PM
you have to evolve your game at some point
the ability to stretch a defense with a perimeter would only raise BG's stock
also if he steps up his defense he'd be off the chain
if dude from ATL (Josh Smith) was more consistent he'd be more of a beast too
Qwasian
10-25-2011, 08:18 AM
honestly, people grade on a sliding scale or someshit, because if blake griffin's game evolved he would be a 40 point, 20+ rebound a night monster.........
if his game evolved he'd be the best to ever play in the NBA...... I mean shit? how much is his game gonna evolve, lets be realistic
if his stats were any better, he would have been literally the best power forward to ever touch a basketball in the NBA. how good do mawfukkaz have to be to get props these days, shit.
Who's not giving griffin props?
FlyassMikey
10-25-2011, 10:39 AM
Just saw this, Kevin Durant should NOT be ranked lower than 3rd, and Rudy Gay definitely should be ranked higher. I think the only reason they put him so low is because he was hurt last year, so I'm not as upset as I am with Kevin Durant being out of the top 5. Then again, I am an OKC fan.
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