Who's debut album was doper, CNN's or Heltah Skeltah?

[Jeff Sticks]

Man, they both were so dope man and two of my favorite rap albums if all time. I rocked the shit out the heltah skeltah joint, Rock had the best voice in hip hop to me, but Nores flow was one of the dopest. The beats on those albums :eek:

[Mercury]

I vote for CNN

[Mr.T]

wow....thats like asking me if I love money or females, my dude

[Qwasian]

for me it was CNN

[Mojo]

It was definitely Heltah Skeltah for me. I wore that tape out. I mean, I listened to CNN a lot too, but I actually Fast Forwarded songs. In MY opinion Heltah Skeltah's joint is a classic. I could easily put that in right now, and it would still have tracks that I think are awesome.

[Mercury]

i wish I could find the CNN "LA LA" joint that had the actual Dogg Pound beat.

I gotta go back and relisten to Heltah Skeltah. I liked BCC but alot of those CDs IMO had alot of similiar sounding production from song to song.

Plus I'm biased towards the Queens sound of that period. Nas, Mobb Deep, Cormega (WOW I love the testament shame it came out 10 years too late), CNN, Nature, The Firm, etc.

[AliAllWorld]

Plus I'm biased towards the Queens sound of that period. Nas, Mobb Deep, Cormega (WOW I love the testament shame it came out 10 years too late), CNN, Nature, The Firm, etc.

Yes sir! I wish AZ would have made a bigger impact back then. He was just as nice as Nas when it came to rhyming. It just seem he played the background too much and never tried to step his game up. He dropped a few solo albums that were alright but I always thought he was just as good as Nas.

[AliAllWorld]

At times i wanna watch out the Mariot, zoning on owning co-ops,
foreign drop top coups, and yachts guzzling straight shots a scotch,
formulating up plots ta escape from Salems lock cuz its scorching hot,
making it hard trying ta figure who's out ta trap me, Pataki, got all
kinds of undercovers coming at me, perhaps he, won't be happy, til they
snatch me, and place me where half slacks be, sitting in Catsaki, but
never me, see, my destiny ta be forever free, in ecstacy, on a hill
that awaits for me, so plus, just ta visualize is like a coke rush,
vivid enough ta make living this a must, plus this is real

- AZ

[Broadway Joe]

i wish I could find the CNN "LA LA" joint that had the actual Dogg Pound beat.



MAANN!! I too have been searching for that joint for ages. I had forgotten about it for a few years until now.

[Mercury]

AZ is great and ungreat at the same time.

Great because his rhyme schemes, flow patterns, etc are sick sick sick and second to none

Ungreat because he basically is talking the same thing EVERY verse for the last 15 years LOL

I think thats what separates Nas and AZ. AZ can outspit Nas but he can't do what Nas can in terms of story telling/topics/subject matter/spitting from the heart/etc

[Mercury]

MAANN!! I too have been searching for that joint for ages. I had forgotten about it for a few years until now.

I can't even find it on youtube. they used to play it on the radio in Richmond but then I read that it was a mixtape exclusive for a particular DJ and not a real single.

[AliAllWorld]

AZ is great and ungreat at the same time.

Great because his rhyme schemes, flow patterns, etc are sick sick sick and second to none

Ungreat because he basically is talking the same thing EVERY verse for the last 15 years LOL

I think thats what separates Nas and AZ. AZ can outspit Nas but he can't do what Nas can in terms of story telling/topics/subject matter/spitting from the heart/etc

Yeah I can see that, he did seem to dwell on hustling and shit. Yo I HATED, I mean HATED CORMEGA!!! To me that dude could not rhyme...he was just lucky to be affiliated with some of those Queens rappers.

The same thing you stated about AZ can also be applied to Mobb Deep. When they first hit they made an impact, but it seemed like they just stayed on the same subjects and shit. None the less in my opinion the greatest Mobb Deep cut has to be:

Shook Ones

meanwhile back in Queens the realness is foundation
if I die I couldn't choose a better location
when the slugs penetrate you feel a burning sensation
getting closer to God in a tight situation now,
take these words home and think it through
or the next rhyme I write might be about you

[Mercury]

cormega survived because he always had SICK beats. Man the production on "the testament" is a masterpiece for the 90s. even his independent albums had crazy beats. Then he had the right persona/story to match the production so his stuff kinda comes together properly IMO. But yeah he ain't nice as AZ, Nature, etc. He's definately a smarter business man then all them though

I like Big Noyd's music too.

[SHARKDIESEL]

what the hell does Leflaur Leflah Eshkoshka mean!!!!!!!!!

[Mercury]

what the hell does Leflaur Leflah Eshkoshka mean!!!!!!!!!

I always wondered that lol.

I can't front though, I did go thru a brief OGC phase where i listened to them daily.

[Jeff Sticks]

Yo, can someone post a link to the heltah skeltah album?

[Cherry Almond Jergen's]

Yo, can someone post a link to the heltah skeltah album?

HS- Nocturnal

pmb salute

http://www.mediafire.com/?dtzyei3itzw

[geo1976]

How about a link to that CNN album. Gracias

[Nah]

CNN - "Closer" (Sam Sneed Remix) = YA:cool:WA

[Cherry Almond Jergen's]

How about a link to that CNN album. Gracias

pmb salute

http://www.mediafire.com/?kyyt3lemnwj

[Cherry Almond Jergen's]

CNN - "Closer" (Sam Sneed Remix) = YA:cool:WA

pmb salute

http://www.mediafire.com/?t2m2wgtzjzu

[Mojo]

I always wondered that lol.

I can't front though, I did go thru a brief OGC phase where i listened to them daily.

Me too. I loved their first two cds.

Did Smoka's Mom's mixtape ever drop? If so, does anybody have a link?

[Mercury]

yo Dubb came thru with all the assists, good looks. I'ma listen to that Heltah Skeltah again tonite...I lost my original joint

[Cherry Almond Jergen's]

yo Dubb came thru with all the assists, good looks. I'ma listen to that Heltah Skeltah again tonite...I lost my original joint

yall can pass some bangbros passwords my way, ya know...no expired shit either...theres a bunch of shit on there i cant find on youjizz

[Tully Blanchard]

I approve of this thread. And Heltah Skeltah gets my vote on this one.

[Nah]

pmb salute

http://www.mediafire.com/?t2m2wgtzjzu

PMB SALUTE!
http://tweetymom.files.wordpress.com/2008/09/the-three-amigos-salute1.jpg

[Qwasian]

yall can pass some bangbros passwords my way, ya know...no expired shit either...theres a bunch of shit on there i cant find on youjizz

adultbay.org all the latest bangbro's and every other website flicks

[The Dre Era]

Easy
Heltah Skeltah

[smilestf1]

Yo to all the dudes lookin for that CNN "LA,LA" Joint wit the Dog Pound Beat... I think I have this joint on LP around here somewhere *looks in lps, Oh shit they all fall over*... Damit... Give me a couple I got Ya'll

[Qwasian]

this the joint where they remixed the dogg pound beat if that's what your talking about.............

Capone N Noreaga - La La (Remix) F/ Mobb Deep & Tragedy Khadafi

http://rapidshare.com/files/386218438/203-capone-n-noreaga__feat_tragedy_aka_khadafi_and_mobb_deep_-la_la__iraq_mix_-rns.mp3

[Jeff Sticks]

Good look on the links! Man, I can't unzip this winrar joint til this weekend arggggh!!!! Anybody got it in another format like winzip?

[Mr.T]

pmb salute

http://www.mediafire.com/?kyyt3lemnwjThis is now...a music request thread....90's edition...

Can I get the first black moon album? I lost mine.

[Mr.T]

this the joint where they remixed the dogg pound beat if that's what your talking about.............

Capone N Noreaga - La La (Remix) F/ Mobb Deep & Tragedy Khadafi

http://rapidshare.com/files/386218438/203-capone-n-noreaga__feat_tragedy_aka_khadafi_and_mobb_deep_-la_la__iraq_mix_-rns.mp3

win............

[Ju?]

Heltah Skeltah! Never even really liked CNN.

[Mercury]

this the joint where they remixed the dogg pound beat if that's what your talking about.............

Capone N Noreaga - La La (Remix) F/ Mobb Deep & Tragedy Khadafi

http://rapidshare.com/files/386218438/203-capone-n-noreaga__feat_tragedy_aka_khadafi_and_mobb_deep_-la_la__iraq_mix_-rns.mp3

good looks man...

[Qwasian]

I used to love that cnn album when it first came out...... I bought the heltah skeltah joint but just wasn't into it as much, I guess it's just different styles cuz I definately did like heltah skeltah they just wasn't my favorite

[Jeff Sticks]

Do you think BCC wouldve flourished if it won't for WU? They definately had comprable talent.

[Qwasian]

wu tang had better marketing and the whole gimmick............that's why they did so well, and as soon as they started to fail at the gimmick they couldn't get it back.....

[Mercury]

I can't really see how Wu's success would hinder BCC's.

I'm not a big fan of the theory of "if this person wouldn't have (blank)...then this person would've (blank)"

Like alot of people say if Biggie never died, Jay-Z wouldn't have blown up. I don't really see the correlation, he seemed to be gaining momentum even while Biggie was alive.

[Qwasian]

I can't really see how Wu's success would hinder BCC's.

I'm not a big fan of the theory of "if this person wouldn't have (blank)...then this person would've (blank)"

Like alot of people say if Biggie never died, Jay-Z wouldn't have blown up. I don't really see the correlation, he seemed to be gaining momentum even while Biggie was alive.


well... the reason alot of people say that is because, the excitement of people to invest and marketing dollars sways in peoples favor........

for example 2pac album drops on the day skillz joint drops so skillz joint doesn't sell that well......

it's studied and fact that only so much money gets spent in the hiphop genre of music and they study that shit down to fine print.....

so they saying that if biggie & pac didn't die that nas wouldnt' have been able to have the marketing opportunities that a biggie or pac would have.......

I personally disagree, I think biggie would have fell off and pac would have fallen off a little later than biggie but they would just be sorta rakim status right now.

it's alot of rappers that fell off and couldn't adapt, I definately think biggie would have been one of them, I believe him & puff would have parted ways because he was too much into knucklehead shit and probably wouldn't have grown up, he created alot of issues that surrounded badboy and puff rolled with it cuz the money was there..... once the money dried up a bit, puff wouldn't have backed him the same way in my opinion.

I mean look at wu tang...... if you would have asked people back when wu tang forever came out if they thought they would fall off the way they did, people would have said no that would be impossible they backing is too strong, but then they fell off.. it's like they make a hot joint here & there, but the marketing dollars aren't there to push them the way they used to get pushed when they first came out, so even they illest material just kinda comes out & is forgotten about

i'm still hearing shit off blueprint 3 on the radio, I never heard a raekwon record on the radio in recent years to even refresh my memory about wu or ghost or rae........ I think I heard ice cream on a mixshow that was about the extent of it.......

that marketing & money is a heavy heavy factor, people sometimes don't realize until they actually fuck w/ labels how much of an impact that shit has

[Illy]

I disagree about Biggie only because Biggie had a machine behind him with Bad Boy and Bad Boy fortunes might be different. Rakim, Kane, none of them had the corporate dollars behind them like BIG.

It's possible, but I can see BIG being in a Snoop type position...

[Qwasian]

I disagree about Biggie only because Biggie had a machine behind him with Bad Boy and Bad Boy fortunes might be different. Rakim, Kane, none of them had the corporate dollars behind them like BIG.

It's possible, but I can see BIG being in a Snoop type position...

snoop fell off........

I don't doubt that big would have got money...........

but no way he would have stayed with bad boy........ look at the track record, NOBODY stayed with badboy

[Illy]

Snoop fell off, but he's still relevant...its very odd, he just seems to pop up in the strangest places in mainstream america...hes like americas favorite pot head.

[Qwasian]

because he has a strong marketing team........

I honestly don't think puff & big would have been cool this entire time....and who really leaves puff & becomes succesful.......

I know you thinking popularity of big would have allowed him to keep going, but I seriously doubt it........

snoop really isn't relevant based on music, more-so on appearances & other shit he's doing....... not sure biggie would have been able to do that....... who knows really

hit appearance on martin acting wise was kinda stale, I think snoop holds a little more talent in that department as far as being interesting

[Cherry Almond Jergen's]

I disagree about Biggie only because Biggie had a machine behind him with Bad Boy and Bad Boy fortunes might be different. Rakim, Kane, none of them had the corporate dollars behind them like BIG.

It's possible, but I can see BIG being in a Snoop type position...

I think Biggie would still be around and hot as ever. Him and Puff were like brothers. They had a very close relationship. He would have probably started his own little gig on the side (like wayne-young money) but always had the support and backing of bad boy. Him and Puff would have had the same relationship as Eminem and Dre.

As far as his music, lyrically Biggie would have still been on point and still getting the best production of our time. So I dont think he would have fallen off.

Biggie really matured after Ready to Die. If I remember correctly, he wanted to fall back from music and raise his daughter after Life after Death....

[The Dre Era]

I think Biggie would still be around and hot as ever. Him and Puff were like brothers. They had a very close relationship. He would have probably started his own little gig on the side (like wayne-young money) but always had the support and backing of bad boy. Him and Puff would have had the same relationship as Eminem and Dre.

As far as his music, lyrically Biggie would have still been on point and still getting the best production of our time. So I dont think he would have fallen off.

Biggie really matured after Ready to Die. If I remember correctly, he wanted to fall back from music and raise his daughter after Life after Death....
you never know
Big may have pulled a Jay-Z throwing Puff under the bus

[Mojo]

you never know
Big may have pulled a Jay-Z throwing Puff under the bus

Or Puff may have done some Dame Dash stuff and effed Big over on his money.

[Qwasian]

irv & ja were like brothers
suge & dre/snoop
puffy & mase
dame & jay


it's only 1 way to go with the natural cycle of events...... you either be your boss' bitch for the rest of ya life, or you try to do ya own thing, and when you try to do ya own thing, you either go all the way to the top or fall off...... you can't really just sit there & co-exist with the same entity in the same space, the energy doesn't work correctly.

biggie would lose ground to jay if he didn't become his own shit.... and in becoming his own shit he would have lost ground to puff......

the only way he would come out on top is if he went his own way & smashed everything, which I seriously doubt he would have been able to smash puff & jay in the ground just on his own & fucking with junior mafia...... puff was the mastermind business plan behind everything he did...... similiar to shyne......

big would have definately fell off........ not saying he wouldn't have been able to get some money, i'm saying he wouldn't have remained king of new york

the skinny jeans shit & uptempo style jay-z is doing big really couldn't do, cuz he was a fat guy.......he can't be trendy in that manor, he could have been a big fat don status type of kat, but that's not really popular anymore......

[Cherry Almond Jergen's]

the skinny jeans shit & uptempo style jay-z is doing big really couldn't do, cuz he was a fat guy.......he can't be trendy in that manor, he could have been a big fat don status type of kat, but that's not really popular anymore......

I know you don't like Rick Ross but he's holding it down right now. Good music and the swag/don status style to go with it

He's not as charismatic and smooth as Biggie but he's not far behind

[Mercury]

yall killing me with these rick ross/biggie comparisons lol

[Qwasian]

I know you don't like Rick Ross but he's holding it down right now. Good music and the swag/don status style to go with it

He's not as charismatic and smooth as Biggie but he's not far behind

in miami........ so you think big would have moved down south? lets be realistic about it...... and being that he wouldn't have been from down south how could he really get that fanbase behind him properly........


rick ross is the fakest wackest muthafucka known to man, if he's whats hot i'm glad rap is falling off.........

I mean even a turd can shine in a sea of shit I guess..........

rick ross is absolutely NOTHING like biggie....... totally different style, totally different music

[Mojo]

Like Q said, I think he would've made a little noise and a little money without Puffy, but I don't think he would've been as huge as Jay-Z is. NOBODY has done anything major after leaving Puff. I don't see him as being the exception.

[Mercury]

to piggyback on an earlier point i think everybody will fall off to a certain extent. Nobody is eternal. Thats why people regard Jigga as the best, he's came to closest to not falling off, and even he has had 1-2 albums that have been criticized.

So Biggie woulda slipped, so would Pac, everybody will. Nobody is perfect ya know?

[Qwasian]

I think that pac or big would have slipped further based on them being kinda wild and not the businessman behind they situation, similiar to nas.......

[Tully Blanchard]

I mean even a turd can shine in a sea of shit I guess..........


LMAO!!

We used to have the "If BIG/Pac was still alive, ____ (insert whatever rapper)wouldn't have seen any money or success" conversation all the time back in the day. But that was assuming that both of their creativity and buzz were able to remain the way it was from 1993-1996. Looking at it now, I definitely think that BIG would've fell off first. Honestly, when I first heard Life After Death I wasn't compelled to buy it on the spot. I eventually gaffled this broad that was frontin' on giving up the skins of her copy in 98, lol. I think that Pac would be where Snoop is now. Just dropping an album here and there to let everybody know that he's still at it. And doing movies.

[Mercury]

sometimes I forget that pac was actually in a considerable amount of movies as a headliner.
Juice
Poetic Justice
Above The Rim
Gridlocked
Gang Related

[Mojo]

sometimes I forget that pac was actually in a considerable amount of movies as a headliner.
Juice
Poetic Justice
Above The Rim
Gridlocked
Gang Related

Which was the 2nd best? We all know that Juice was his best.

[Qwasian]

Which was the 2nd best? We all know that Juice was his best.

they were all dope movies, but I like gang related second best......

the movie juice is such a classic that it don't even make no sense..... that is an ill ass movie........

[Tully Blanchard]

I thought he was ill in Above the Rim. Especially when he snapped off on Leon in the graveyard, lol.

http://www.gifsoup.com/view/164489/the-f-ckutalkin2-o.gif

[Qwasian]

anybody ever find it kinda weird that pac was such a good actor? and relate that to his music? cuz his tendencies were sorta bitch like, but he came off tuff on music/movies. shit reminds me of plies

[Mercury]

anybody ever find it kinda weird that pac was such a good actor? and relate that to his music? cuz his tendencies were sorta bitch like, but he came off tuff on music/movies. shit reminds me of plies

I thought about that sometimes. I think alot of that tough guy Pac was him acting (especially during the death row years) but certain things I think were kinda in him.

-I don't care what school he went to, he from the hood straight up no chaser
-He was overtly emotional like a woman, which he admitted on MTV Jams interview that time when he was about to go to jail.
-He always hung around with some questionable characters...so I guess he gonna kinda carry those traits just to fit in

Now Plies, they try to say he's not even from the hood and he's a college graduate, and nobody can find any info on his background, he just kinda popped up one day. Pac's background you can easily trace and figure out whats an act and whats not.

[The Dre Era]

Or Puff may have done some Dame Dash stuff and effed Big over on his money.
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[Mercury]

also, Juice was good as hell. because it was a hood movie that wasn't overtly thugged out for no reason. like that story was believable (in my opinion). We've all seen a good dude go the wrong route in a hurry after he gets a lil rep

Don't get me wrong, I love Menace II Society too, but movies like that makes it seems like its a whole community of heartless killers (which maybe true, I never been to cali so i don't know)

[The Dre Era]

Menace II Society was the best hood movie ever hands down
the best ever
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[Cherry Almond Jergen's]

I thought about that sometimes. I think alot of that tough guy Pac was him acting (especially during the death row years) but certain things I think were kinda in him.

-I don't care what school he went to, he from the hood straight up no chaser
-He was overtly emotional like a woman, which he admitted on MTV Jams interview that time when he was about to go to jail.
-He always hung around with some questionable characters...so I guess he gonna kinda carry those traits just to fit in

Now Plies, they try to say he's not even from the hood and he's a college graduate, and nobody can find any info on his background, he just kinda popped up one day. Pac's background you can easily trace and figure out whats an act and whats not.

I view pac the same way brother Q views Rick Ross....he talked way to much hood shit and his background didnt fit that. He talked real wreckless which I why I think he got tested...twice....with the last one taking his life. I just never saw him as an OG. The gun on his stomach and all that was straight bullshit. His anger was probably passed down by his moms that was a black panther. Thats why he was such a rebel.

He wasn't wack....but I think he is highly overappreciated. Somebody here said it best....I think people were more in love with his personality than the actual music. IMO his catalog has so many damn fillers, it doesnt make sense.

Brother Q brought up a great point though...gives you something to think about. Was this all a BS act? The more and more i think about it, it sounds like it was

[Mercury]

http://i44.tinypic.com/2lj2f7m.gif

puff took everybody else money, why not big? didn't he fight with big's mom over money after he died? or am I tripping?

[Mercury]

I view pac the same way brother Q views Rick Ross....he talked way to much hood shit and his background didnt fit that. He talked real wreckless which I why I think he got tested...twice....with the last one taking his life. I just never saw him as an OG. The gun on his stomach and all that was straight bullshit. His anger was probably passed down by his moms that was a black panther. Thats why he was such a rebel.

He wasn't wack....but I think he is highly overappreciated. Somebody here said it best....I think people were more in love with his personality than the actual music. IMO his catalog has so many damn fillers, it doesnt make sense.

Brother Q brought up a great point though...gives you something to think about. Was this all a BS act? The more and more i think about it, it sounds like it was

his background don't match his thug tales or his hood pass? I would say he had a helluva hood pass, he lived in 3 grimey hoods in 3 different states. But as far as him putting in work? I'm quite sure he didn't, nor did a lot of other rappers.

[The Dre Era]

puff took everybody else money, why not big? didn't he fight with big's mom over money after he died? or am I tripping?
nope big's moms and puff never had beef

[Cherry Almond Jergen's]

his background don't match his thug tales or his hood pass? I would say he had a helluva hood pass, he lived in 3 grimey hoods in 3 different states. But as far as him putting in work? I'm quite sure he didn't, nor did a lot of other rappers.

but he rapped about the shit like he was actually out there slangin dope and shootin motherfuckers up...I can see if he rapped about shit like he was sitting by the window and writing down what he sees everyday....that wasnt the case

Just because you live in the hood doesnt automatically give you a hood pass

If I move to a fucked up part of DC, that doesnt make me a thug

[Mercury]

but he rapped about the shit like he was actually out there slangin dope and shootin motherfuckers up...I can see if he rapped about shit like he was sitting by the window and writing down what he sees everyday....that wasnt the case

Just because you live in the hood doesnt automatically give you a hood pass

If I move to a fucked up part of DC, that doesnt make me a thug

thats damn near EVERY rapper though thats the point. You are holding Pac to a standard that you aren't holding other rappers to. You basically broke down Rick Ross's story in a nutshell but you respect his music.

[AliAllWorld]

When I listen to Hip Hop or any type of music I follow or like an artist because of how they sound........

Is the voice unique...do they sound like whats already out.
Can they flow....are the lyrics tight.
Do they have good production...do the tracks or beats compliment their sound.

If it catches my ear and sounds good to me then I'll rock with them.

Honestly I like Rick Ross the artist. I like his flow, I love the production etc. I don't give a flying fuck if he was a cop, a pimp or a priest. That does not matter to me in the long run. Yes if an artist falls into some type of controversy I am going to follow and give my opinion on how I feel....but that will not change my opinion of them as an artist only as a person.

[Cherry Almond Jergen's]

thats damn near EVERY rapper though thats the point. You are holding Pac to a standard that you aren't holding other rappers to. You basically broke down Rick Ross's story in a nutshell but you respect his music.

the difference between pac and other rappers is that he drilled that shit into your head...over and over again...constantly on tv and interviews...he was very controversial...."fuck the white man", "fuck the fbi, they are gangs" "im a bad boy killer".....he was very wreckless with it

he put on a great act..it worked...it sold

[Cherry Almond Jergen's]

When I listen to Hip Hop or any type of music I follow or like an artist because of how they sound........

Is the voice unique...do they sound like whats already out.
Can they flow....are the lyrics tight.
Do they have good production...do the tracks or beats compliment their sound.

If it catches my ear and sounds good to me then I'll rock with them.

Honestly I like Rick Ross the artist. I like his flow, I love the production etc. I don't give a flying fuck if he was a cop, a pimp or a priest. That does not matter to me in the long run. Yes if an artist falls into some type of controversy I am going to follow and give my opinion on how I feel....but that will not change my opinion of them as an artist only as a person.


See I'm the same way....but everytime they talk about Pac, the first thing people say is "he was a real nigga"..lol They never talk about his music first

My thing is, how can you dog Rick Ross and them and than call 2pac a real nigga?

brother merc just said all rappers do that....so why does Pac stand out realer then others?

why? the controvesy...the shit I quoted above...thats what made people think he was "so real"

[Mercury]

I think rick ross drills it into your head. I can post up over 30 interviews of pac saying "yes I went to acting school" "yes I took dance" "yes jada pinkett was my best friend". It aint his fault ppl ignored that. Rick ross flat out lies. And I like his music so it don't bother me, but he is 8times the liar pac ever was

[Nah]

They're all storytellers...sometimes the stories aren't their own.

[Qwasian]

the thing I don't like is when certain rappers say certain shit that is just retarded... plies does it, rick ross does it etc..... its' like they just do certain shit that's over the top.......

like plies with that accent he does saying "brah brah" and all that shit, it doesn't convince me at all.........

when rick ross said, I know noreaga, the real noreaga, he owe me 100 favors......

I immediately was laughin at d00d and haven't liked him since........

it's one thing to say you push coke, it's a whole other thing to say you know noreaga and all that silly shit........

if rick ross was even half of the person he portray's to be, he wouldn't be rapping.... the 2 don't mix..... he would be the boss figure and have someone else rapping for him.......

and trick daddy was above ross & kept it real and kinda fell off..... it's like he kicked the fake shit into overdrive to make his music work... that shit is wild corny to me.........and people buy into that bullshit

I can listen to people reguardless of they past, but it's just when they say some shit that's wild unbelievable that nobody does I have to put it down like, c'mon son.....

your not freeway ricky ross, you don't know noreaga, your going over to islands to front like you sell coke, when you got kats slingin ya baby's moms a few bucks to get on camera....... he's a fucking broke ass bum fronting like something he's not, and diddy fucks with him cuz he can rape him on money..... he generates money and is a fool, he need the co-sign......

ross is just too fake, I don't see how people can listen to that shit, it would make me feel like i'm listen to big bird rap or someshit, you can tell a story that isn't yours, just make it authentic...... ross stories aren't true to anyone.......

[Jeff Sticks]

The CNN album aged way better than the heltah skeltah joint. The reunion album was my shit too, I swear I banged that shit for like 4 years, lol.

Anybody got The Infamous album or the lost boyz first joint, I'm feeling nostalgic, lol

whatever happened to khadafi, the intelligent thug, lol

[Mercury]

yoooooooo that reunion joint was flames. I remember I copped that at target and was PLEASANTLY surprised at how dope it came out.

Tragedy did a project with Killah Priest a few years ago, I think he ended up being thrown behind bars.

[Jeff Sticks]

Killah priest gotta be the smartest rapper ever, you need a phd to decipher his rhymes, lol. Heavy Mental was classic.

Yea, I banged the reunion religiously, nore finally stopped sounding wack when Capone got out, lol.

[Mercury]

yeah...because I didn't like Melvin Flynt album hardly at all. I got a lot of flack for it at school because all my friends loved it, it just won't my type of album. I liked about 5 songs on it. So when that Reunion hit, I was like thank the LORD!

[Qwasian]

yeah reunion was a dope ass album, I like cocaine business off melvin flynt......

killah preist is wack as fuck, I never liked any song he did "EVER"...... that shit is just str8 trash'ola

[Nah]

I wasn't a Melvin Flynt fan either. It just didn't do it for me like N.O.R.E. did. When that album came out...mannn, those was good times. It always reminds me of this Source cover.
http://thimk.files.wordpress.com/2010/01/source-june-1998-105.jpg?w=500&h=229
After B.I.G. and 'Pac passed there was so many emcees coming out of the woodwork. So much variety of hip-hop to listen to. I loved it. I remember copping Def Squad's El Nino, Gangstarr's Moment Of Truth, Mo Thugs Family Scriptures (lol), Goodie Mob's Still Standing, Puff's No Way Out, Life in 1472, Lyricist Lounge Vol.1, etc. Aaww mannn there was so much sht I had in rotation that year!

[Nah]

I didn't mention Capital Punishment because it's Pun. Of course I had that! That sht stayed on deck. I was checking for everybody on that cover except for Silk, lol. I didn't really like his stutter-step flow.:mad: Plus, I had a friend who copped every No Limit release, so I would hear it eventually. I only fcked with Fiend, Mystikal, or P from the tank...Mia X was aight though.

[Qwasian]

capital punishment is probably one of the greatest hiphop albums of all time, and it doesn't get recognized for it..........

terror squad had some ill muthafuckaz........

I holla'd at armaggedon, and prospect about a month ago, and I was like where ya'll been man, why ya'll ain't put out no music, they was like, yeah we about to put some shit out

im like? ya'll muthafuckaz about a decade late ain't it......... but they new shit is ill they still killin it crazy w/ the lyrics.

[Mojo]

I thought Reunion was better than War Report.

lol@ that Source pic. Not one of them dudes is anywhere right now.

[Qwasian]

several of them made millions? so I guess it depends on ya definition of not being anywhere....... that's an old mag too, I agree re-union was better than war report...... war report at the time was a hot ass album though

[Nah]

Fck what you heard, Terror Squad (before Miami Joe era) was niiice.

[Qwasian]

yeah they still nice as a bitch, man I heard some of they newer shit, shit is CRAZZZY lyrically....... here goes Armageddon new single

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YUv68iCoqwU

[Qwasian]

Prospect - Warrior

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g6NRNIXf_50

[Jeff Sticks]

Lol@ a decade late, but you're so right, lol. Capital Punishment is definately one if the greatest. Armageddon was my favorite in ts after pun. Man, that era of rap was so hot, the south and north coexisted, lol, now the game done went tipsy turvy, lol.

[Nah]

yeah they still nice as a bitch, man I heard some of they newer shit, shit is CRAZZZY lyrically....... here goes Armageddon new single

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YUv68iCoqwU

Whew!!! That was heat! I wanna hear him on a track with D-Block now. :cool:

[Qwasian]

Whew!!! That was heat! I wanna hear him on a track with D-Block now. :cool:

these kats is on the craziest shit...... alot of people regaurd them as hiphop greatness and they just be on some regular shit, don't even really care about recording music & don't really view themselves as nobody. it's like str8 up if somebody ain't cutting a check and making them record they not interested in it.

[Mercury]

Fat Joe used to say they were lazy on several interviews